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Lightenup replied to the topic The Son of God in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 9 months ago
Quote (Tiffany @ Aug. 27 2008,00:17)When there is a problem with interpreting a Word and it is not clear, we must go else to prove all things.First I want to make sure that all understand what the trinity doctrine really is. W.J. says that the Father and the Son is equal in power. But can I prove otherwise? Yes, I can by Jesus own words. He said…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 9 months ago
Hi t8,Amen for your insights, thank you so much!!!You are right in saying that the Son of God is not the “Most High God” and wouldn't want anyone to even believe that. That would take a unique glory away from His Father who is greater than Himself. Also, the Son of God is referred to as “King of kings and Lord of lords” however, that is where it…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Prayer for Others in the forum Prayer & Advice 17 years, 9 months ago
Hi Irene,Thank you for your prayers for my sons. My oldest found out that he didn't have walking pneumonia, thank God and my other son is feeling better.As far as unity on this website, there is some. Several of us are united in truth. Others aren't. It is a shame. If I sound harsh well, so did Jesus. He called people a “brood of vipers.” I…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 9 months ago
Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 13 2008,18:03)I wrote this about 9 days ago in the pre-existense thread and felt it would be helpful here. I am not teaching the trinity doctrine here by this info. I do not agree with that doctrine. I believe that Jesus Christ is our God (the Begotten God John 1:18 NASB) and Savior. I do not believe that He is our “Mo…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Prayer for Others in the forum Prayer & Advice 17 years, 9 months ago
Hello,We are needing some prayer again. My oldest two boys are sick and have been for a week or two. One probably has walking pneumonia and the other probably has mono. The son with the walking pneumonia is living alone at college. Please pray that the right meds/treatment will be given and followed. Thank you!LU
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 9 months ago
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 14 2008,10:37)T8…..Your assuming the (Word) as a Noun when in fact it is a descriptor or an attribute of the one GOD. And your references to the upper and lower cases is also wrong seeing that (ALL) original Greek is written in capital letters. Translators changes the upper and lower case lettering to meet their…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 9 months ago
BTW, in regards to the above post, the Greek word written as “hn” in John 1:1 is transliterated as “en” and is translated as “was”. I know that might be confusing.
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 9 months ago
WJ,Holy cow! My brain hurts and may never recover. You put a lot of time and effort into that post so even though I do not completely agree with you I do appreciate all your thought and time. I hope that I am not intruding here by addressing your post since you specifically asked for t8's response. I would like to say a few things about it…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 9 months ago
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 12 2008,23:19)Lu…..Jesus is not my GOD and savior, I have a GOd and Savior who is the same one as Jesus had and I think He is just as capable of saving me as He did Jesus. I View Jesus as my brother who the Father placed over us because He is the first born of the Family of Humanity to fully image God the Father and…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 9 months ago
Quote (dirtyknections @ Aug. 13 2008,11:35)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 14 2008,01:25)Gene,So 2 Peter 1:1 refers to another Jesus Christ?LUAgain…this verse does not prove the trinity…The dispute in this verse is usually over whether Sharp's “article+substantive-kai-substantive” rule should apply or not.First of all, if you check other translations…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 9 months ago
Gene,So 2 Peter 1:1 refers to another Jesus Christ?LU
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 9 months ago
Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 11 2008,09:53)Hi Adam,You say:”I fully agree with Jesus in all that he preached and he is the lord and savior of me. But I don't make him another God apart from that one and only God (Jn 5:44). Jesus has been exalted to the position above all angels and authorities even as a man. Please see Heb 2:5-9″You mentioned that “he…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 9 months ago
Hi Adam,You say:”I fully agree with Jesus in all that he preached and he is the lord and savior of me. But I don't make him another God apart from that one and only God (Jn 5:44). Jesus has been exalted to the position above all angels and authorities even as a man. Please see Heb 2:5-9″You mentioned that “he is the lord and savior of me”. It is…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 9 months ago
Hi Pulivarthy,You are right that the son of God is called the “word of God”. I believe that He is the word of God in more than one ways. I believe that the first word of God spoken in the Bible referred to the Son of God, “Let there be light”. He was that light of life, physically and spiritually and still is. I think that was an announcement…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The Christ of God in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 9 months ago
Hi Adam,I believe that His “inner man” came down from heaven and dwelt within the body prepared for Him inside of Mary. The same part that ascended back into heaven when the body died.
Lightenup replied to the topic I have so many questions! in the forum Prayer & Advice 17 years, 9 months ago
Welcome Akara,It sounds like you are a “baby” christian, so to speak. All Christians start out that way. As babes in Christ we feed on milk, the basics of God and as we grow we start to chew on the tougher stuff. The book of John is a good place to start your search. There are some good basics there.LU
Lightenup replied to the topic The Christ of God in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 9 months ago
Hi 94,You are correct to say that He never sinned along the way amidst the temptations. You are also correct to say that we do sin along the way amidst the temptations. Another difference is that He is from above and we are from below yet both born into this world as an infant. You are also correct to say that in some ways we shall be like Him…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The Christ of God in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 9 months ago
Quote (942767 @ Aug. 10 2008,21:11)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 11 2008,08:53)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 09 2008,22:16)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 10 2008,04:47)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 09 2008,12:07)LU…..Where does it say Jesus is the Author of Faith, Abraham had Faith and Jesus wasn't even born yet, as well as David and many…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The Christ of God in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 9 months ago
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 09 2008,22:16)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 10 2008,04:47)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 09 2008,12:07)LU…..Where does it say Jesus is the Author of Faith, Abraham had Faith and Jesus wasn't even born yet, as well as David and many others.peace……….geneGene,If it did say He was the author of faith would you then believe.…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The Christ of God in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 9 months ago
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 09 2008,12:07)LU…..Where does it say Jesus is the Author of Faith, Abraham had Faith and Jesus wasn't even born yet, as well as David and many others.peace……….geneGene,If it did say He was the author of faith would you then believe. I doubt it. Read my post again and you will find where it says that He is the…[Read more]
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