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Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 8 months ago
Hi all,I posted this in pre-existense and I don't think that it got the attention it deserved so I am putting it here.Read through this passage to see if you can tell me who the “I” is here. Don't miss v. 16.Isa 48:12-1612 “Listen to Me, O Jacob, even Israel whom I called; I am He, I am the first, I am also the last. 13 “Surely My hand founded…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 8 months ago
Hi Nick,Orrrrrrr Hebrews 12 is referring to those who were not holy sons which is all His sons that were foreknown to be adopted. We know beyond a shadow of doubt that Jesus is clearly God's son who was born holy and already partaking in God's holiness. That is written.No where is it written that Jesus was being chastened by His Father. Don't…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 8 months ago
Hi Nick,Show us where in scriptures that Jesus wasn't holy and had to be chastened so that He might be a partaker of holiness. He was born holy ya know. Jesus is an exception, He was perfect. He had to learn obedience as a man but that doesn't mean that He was ever disobedient. If you disagree please show us that Jesus was disobedient and in…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 8 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 06 2008,06:09)Quote (Not3in1 @ Sep. 06 2008,08:54)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 06 2008,01:08)I believe that the Son of God was alive before the creation of the world as the Son of God, a heavenly being.And then born a lesser birth through the women?Born a Son of God, and then born-again the Son of God AND Man. How many times…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 8 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 04 2008,23:06)Hi LU, We can tie scriptures together with logic and try to make one possible truth out of three or four. But the better principles of scripture study rely on first establishing individual truths.2Cor 131 This is the third time I am coming to you. In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 8 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 04 2008,18:08)Hi LU, We do not work from possible speculations but from what is written.What is not written is speculative but truth.If we wish to start speculating where will it stop?Hi Nick,Huh?
Scripture interprets scripture. That is what I am trying to do here. I am using what is written and tying it together.…[Read more]Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 8 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 04 2008,16:47)Hi LU,You say”I believe that I can show that two are called Yahweh.” This is a favourite play of trinitarians desperate to amalgamate the Father with His Son.Jesus never said he had visited earth before so we should not speak for him.Hi Nick and Mandy,Well, you know that I am not a trinitarian, right? You…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 8 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 04 2008,15:17)Hi LU, Do you work in the name of Jesus. Does that make you him?Jesus is the Son of the living GodYahshuaNick,I do not think you are following along or I am not making myself clear.LU
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 8 months ago
Quote (t8 @ Sep. 04 2008,05:39)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 04 2008,15:39)Hi Nick,Can you prove that Jesus was never called “Yahweh”?I believe that I can show that two are called Yahweh.Here goes:Ex 6:2-32 God also said to Moses, “I am the LORD. 3 I appeared to Abraham, to Isaac and to Jacob as God Almighty, but by my name the LORD I did not make…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 8 months ago
Hi t8,I don't think that God is referred to as the invisible God because He has no form or body type. In fact, He let Moses see His “form”. Also, Jesus saw Him.Num 12:6-8″Hear now My words: If there is a prophet among you, I, the LORD, shall make Myself known to him in a vision. I shall speak with him in a dream. 7 “Not so, with My servant…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 8 months ago
Hi Nick,Can you prove that Jesus was never called “Yahweh”?I believe that I can show that two are called Yahweh.Here goes:Ex 6:2-32 God also said to Moses, “I am the LORD. 3 I appeared to Abraham, to Isaac and to Jacob as God Almighty, but by my name the LORD I did not make myself known to them.(from New International Version)hmmmmm…Here we have…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 8 months ago
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 02 2008,15:28)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 01 2008,02:52)In the beginning was the word. That does not say that the “word” was eternal, it just says that it was in the beginning. A word has an origin, first it must be a thought. Surely there must be something more than that for those of you who believe that the Son of…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 8 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 03 2008,14:51)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 04 2008,01:03)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 02 2008,15:07)Hi LU, No Abraham did not seek to kill ANY man who had come to tell the truth given him of God.Hi Nick,Can you recall what “men” or “man” gave Abraham words of God beside the “man” he called LORD? I know that God spoke with…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 8 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 02 2008,15:07)Hi LU, No Abraham did not seek to kill ANY man who had come to tell the truth given him of God.Hi Nick,Can you recall what “men” or “man” gave Abraham words of God beside the “man” he called LORD? I know that God spoke with Abraham directly many times. LU
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 8 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 02 2008,22:53)Hi WJ, You say”Yes, you are correct, there is no scripture that says Yeshua was born a son before the world began.”Then say” In fact the scriptural evidence leans toward the “eternality of Yeshua”.” If you are prepared to back the first statement as what being written is insufficient as proof, why trust your…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 17 years, 8 months ago
Hi Nick,I know. I thought you might like this one.LU
Lightenup replied to the topic Nicene Creed in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 17 years, 8 months ago
Hi All,In the following passage Jesus is talking to some very religious Jews who claimed God as their very Father. Jesus tells them that God was not their Father. Why, because they did not know Him (Jesus). What does that mean, they knew him, they were in fact talking to him. If someone were to ask them if they knew who Jesus was they would…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 17 years, 8 months ago
Hi all,Here might be something else to chew on:Isa 48:16 “Come near to Me, listen to this: From the first I have not spoken in secret, From the time it took place, I was there. And now the Lord GOD has sent Me, and His Spirit.”And this passage (notice the switch from you did this and he did that, sounds like two were involved):Ps 1041 Bless the…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Do you believe the theory of Evolution to be true? in the forum Creation & Science 17 years, 8 months ago
Hi all,I am a kitchen designer by trade. I believe that every kitchen comes about because of a designer whether it is an uneducated and unexperienced one or one with experience and talent. I would never tell a client to set off some exposives in the area that they would like there kitchen to be and in the morning they would have a kitchen in…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 17 years, 8 months ago
Hi Nick and Mandy,Thanks Mandy for your insight here. Thanks Nick for your answer.Now, just to clarify, Abraham did not seek to kill the pre-existent Christ who has told him the truth, which he heard of God. That is the deed he did not do.My point is why would Jesus speak of this unless He actually had been in the physical presence of Abraham and…[Read more]
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