Thanks Martian,I'll look that over.LU

Thanks Irene,I hope you are having a good day.Love, Kathi

Quote (martian @ Feb. 03 2009,09:22)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 03 2009,11:09)Hello, I just wanted to interject this:Matt 10:27-2827 What I tell you in the dark, utter in the light; and what you hear whispered, proclaim upon the housetops. RSVMatt 10:2727 What I tell you in the dark, speak in the daylight; what is whispered in your ear, proclaim from…[Read more]

Hello, I just wanted to interject this:Matt 10:27-2827 What I tell you in the dark, utter in the light; and what you hear whispered, proclaim upon the housetops. RSVMatt 10:2727 What I tell you in the dark, speak in the daylight; what is whispered in your ear, proclaim from the roofs.(from New International Version)LU

Hi Nick,I don't know what specifically you are talking about but I don't think that we should discourage people from presenting their ideas/speculations as a theory. I agree that it is a problem when they lean on their understanding and not open to testing it. This is a good forum to share thoughts so others can challenge them and sharpen…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 31 2009,18:10)HI, Why is it that men love treating their own speculations as being the equivalent of what is written?Adding human logic turns truth into unwise speculation.Romans 1:21For even though they knew God, they did not honor Him as God or give thanks, but they became futile in their speculations, and their foolish…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Jan. 31 2009,22:08)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 01 2009,10:04)Hi LU, You said in another thread”Hi Martian,My stance on the “Light” of day one being the Son of God is a theory of which I developed after asking God what “Firstborn of all creation” meant.  During that quest, one day when I was homeschooling my son and we were reviewing…[Read more]

Quote (martian @ Jan. 31 2009,17:19)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 01 2009,09:00)Quote (martian @ Jan. 31 2009,13:29)Quote (martian @ Feb. 01 2009,05:25)Martian, You assume wrong.Quote Where did I say that anytime “light” is found in the OT it means Jesus?I only spoke of the day one “light” as referring to the Son not anytime you see the word light.…[Read more]

Marty, I do not think you know the “I” and “me” that I am asking you to identify. Let me try to make it clearer. Who is the “I” and the “me” referred to in verse 16?Isa 48:12-16″Listen to Me, O Jacob, even Israel whom I called; I am He, I am the first, I am also the last. 13 “Surely My hand founded the earth, And My right hand spread out the…[Read more]

Quote (martian @ Jan. 31 2009,13:29)Quote (martian @ Feb. 01 2009,05:25)Martian, You assume wrong.Quote Where did I say that anytime “light” is found in the OT it means Jesus?I only spoke of the day one “light” as referring to the Son not anytime you see the word light.  Good grief.  That thinking of yours surely brings into question your t…[Read more]

Martian, You assume wrong.Quote There fore I can assume (as you did with light) that anytime way is found in the OT it means Jesus?Where did I say that anytime “light” is found in the OT it means Jesus?I only spoke of the day one “light” as referring to the Son not anytime you see the word light.  Good grief.  That thinking of yours surely b…[Read more]

Hi Marty,You asked:Quote Can you produce a scripture which states that Jesus pre-existed in a body before his virgin birth?  And if there is such a thing, was he a man or an angel or just what?  You cannot justify what you believe through speculation, and that is what you are doing here.Heb 1:10″YOU, LORD, IN THE BEGINNING LAID THE FOUNDATION OF T…[Read more]

Quote (martian @ Jan. 30 2009,15:50)Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 31 2009,07:30)Thanks Martian,I have read that before…pure specuation on your Hebrew scholar's part, but thanks.  BTW, light fills things, things don't fill light.  The day one light doesn't fill the sun, moon and the stars.  I can understand filling the earth with plants, animals, et…[Read more]

Thanks Martian,I have read that before…pure specuation on your Hebrew scholar's part, but thanks. BTW, light fills things, things don't fill light. The day one light doesn't fill the sun, moon and the stars. I can understand filling the earth with plants, animals, etc. but I can't agree with the concept of filling the light with the sun, moon…[Read more]

Quote (Cindy @ Jan. 30 2009,05:58)Hi Kathi, good post. Did you ever wonder why God would create a void earth? And would the Angels shouted for joy for such a chaotic place? Of course this is just my thinking I can't prove it anywhere in the Bible. Just that in the beginning in John 1:1-18 Jesus through the power of the Holy Spirit created all…[Read more]

Hi Marty,Do you not think it possible to change body forms? To go from a heavenly body to an earthly body?We are hoping to change from an earthly body to a heavenly body. While in our new heavenly body we will be able to say that we existed in a time before we had that heavenly body if we have access to that memory. We expect that, right. We…[Read more]

Hi Irene,I'm glad that the Lord is shining for you! We are having a rainy day here but I am hearing of ice storms up north, brrr. I hope you are keeping warm. My sister was here this past weekend with her famiily. They came to pick out a collie puppy from a friend of mine. The little puppy is so perfectly made, little whiskers, nose and ears…[Read more]

Thank you Seeking and Irene.  I always appreciate your encouragement!Have a great day!LU

Dear Marty and anyone who cares to read,Keep seeking the Lord Marty, don't be discouraged.I want to share my theory with you to consider:In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. I believe that was the Heavenly Father, all alone, no Son at this point. Also, no form to the earth and nothing in or on it, it was void. The Heavenly…[Read more]

Quote (Cindy @ Jan. 27 2009,21:30)Martian!  Even though I do not believe in a trinity doctrine, I do believe in a preexisting of our Lord Jesus Christ. Why God did this I am not sure, but I do speculate on that. First late me prove the preexisting to you. John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word and the Word was God and the Word was with God.    …[Read more]