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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 17 years, 4 months ago

    Martian,The words “image” and “form” are not the same greek words. Man is not spoken of as being in the “form of God.” That was only applied to Jesus.The strong's number for the word “form” in Phil. 2:6:NT:3444morphe (mor-fay'); perhaps from the base of NT:3313 (through the idea of adjustment of parts); shape; figuratively, nature:KJV -…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 17 years, 4 months ago

    Quote (martian @ Jan. 22 2009,12:16)Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 23 2009,03:37)Quote (martian @ Jan. 21 2009,13:50)Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 21 2009,09:21)Martian,The exegesis is not what's broken here that needs fixing, IMO.  Perhaps Christ doesn't need to be exactly like us for us to be like Him.  The Father doesn't need to be exactly like Christ for C…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 17 years, 4 months ago

    Quote (martian @ Jan. 21 2009,13:50)Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 21 2009,09:21)Martian,The exegesis is not what's broken here that needs fixing, IMO.  Perhaps Christ doesn't need to be exactly like us for us to be like Him.  The Father doesn't need to be exactly like Christ for Christ to be like Him.  See how it works?LUThe father is not written of in…[Read more]

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    Quote (Cindy @ Jan. 20 2009,13:08)t8 Since I am Cindy now I lost my editing rights could I have it back, please, IreneNow you are Cindy??? You have been everyone except, well, Irene I think. When do you get to be Georg, or Nick, or Adam, or t8 :;): Just teasin' ya Irene. Love ya! Kathi

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 17 years, 4 months ago

    Martian,The exegesis is not what's broken here that needs fixing, IMO. Perhaps Christ doesn't need to be exactly like us for us to be like Him. The Father doesn't need to be exactly like Christ for Christ to be like Him. See how it works?LU

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 17 years, 4 months ago

    Hello,In regards to the “I had with you” in John 17:55 “Now, Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was. NASUThe greek word for “had” is written in the active voice showing that the subject actively “had” the glory and not passively “had” the glory, therefore the subject existed in an…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 17 years, 4 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 18 2009,13:52)Hi martian, He became like the Father because the spirit of the Father lived in him and led him.  We should follow himMatthew 10:20For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you.Hi Nick,Where does it say that Jesus “became” like His Father? And, when was He not like His…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 17 years, 4 months ago

    Hi Martian,Just want to interject something here. The logos of John 1:1 “was with” God in an active voice not a passive voice. Do you understand the difference. It has to do with Greek grammar. A plan doesn't do an action but is passive and acted upon. The verb “was” here, is written in an active voice and not a passive voice. Therefore,…[Read more]

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    Hi Mandy,I'm glad to read your positive, hopeful post. How is your journey going?Love, Kathi

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    Thanks for sharing that t8…that's amazing. I have heard of this kind of thing happening. Recently I read this book called 90 Minutes in Heaven by Don Piper. This is the editorial review from Amazon.com:Editorial ReviewsProduct DescriptionNow available in beautiful gift edition, 90 Minutes in Heaven is the runaway bestseller about one man's…[Read more]

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    Stu,You are the one asking for more tea…anyway I have had enough of this discourse…far too predictable. LU

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    Hi Stu,Quote Can I have another cup of tea?If I gave you another “cup of tea” as a representative for Christ would you be thankful for it or try to dump it on me? If you were hungry and I fed you as a representative of Christ would you eat it till you were full and be thankful or would you proceed to spill you “mock” anger, insults and criticism…[Read more]

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    Stu,And yes, you have confirmed my point! No slamming here but an open door to go out from where you detest the beliefs of those within. LU

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    Quote (Stu @ Jan. 05 2009,01:48)Hi LightenupQuote Read about Daniel and the Lion's Den and Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednigo in the fiery furnace and you will see their God's rescue, even the king gave Him credit. They worshipped the same God as I do.I did say unquestionably, ie: at least reliably.  Do you consider mythical stories to be evidence?…[Read more]

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    Stu,Read about Daniel and the Lion's Den and Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednigo in the fiery furnace and you will see their God's rescue, even the king gave Him credit. They worshipped the same God as I do.BTW, it doesn't take a doctor to see that you are an unhappy person. Get some help. Knowing the mind of your spaghetti god isn't helping…

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    Hi Charity,Does a help mate always have to mean a sexual relationship? Man is not alone, there are people everywhere. When God said that to Adam, there were no other people. He created a woman for the man because that is how to get more people. Being the only person on an island is far different than being the only person living in a bedroom.…[Read more]

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    Stu,You are hopelessly whining on and on! God knows death is gain for all who seek Him even if they die because they are hungry. God is also behind massive relief efforts. Did you ever think about that? You just seem to blame and assume the worst. You have issues Stu. Get some professional help for your depression!

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    Charity,We won't have heaven while on earth but we will someday have heaven where we understand the why's and we will easily rejoice in them and the things of earth will grow stangely dim…someday. K

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    You are right Charity, we need to do more than just pray. Just like I did for my art project, we have to pray and then seek and listen for the guidance of the Holy Spirit. As far as those that pray for something for 10 years without getting it, the answer is either no or the individual needs to self-evaluate how they can improve the situation…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic New Year? in the forum Chatroom 17 years, 4 months ago

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