Hi all,I think that once a person believes in error in the scriptures, all scriptures that do not support your belief are also considered error even when the scripture is consistent in the manuscripts and the idea is supported by other scriptures.Heb 1:8-98 But of the Son He says, “YOUR THRONE, O GOD, IS FOREVER AND EVER, AND THE RIGHTEOUS SCEPTER…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 27 2009,22:53)Hi LU, Yes in the context of VISIBLE CREATION. But there was a timeless beginning before that in which the world was formless and void.Hi Nick,I think that it is true that the creation began before day one (in an elementary formless way) but it was still not formed and there was no life except God existed.…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Feb. 27 2009,22:11)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 28 2009,07:26)The power of the scriptures in incomparable to the power of an anesthetic.  How long would you participate in a message board about anesthesia, hmmm?Many are coming to Christ.  He provides the way to the only God that is a Father to His followers, one that gives freedom to c…[Read more]

Marty,Good answer!LU

Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 26 2009,13:11)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 25 2009,17:43)Hi LU, Jesus is of the divine bloodline.God is his father.Hi Marty and Nick,The Son calls His Father-“God” and His Father calls the Son “God.”  Who does the verse say shed His own blood?  I know that Father is the Most High God.  I know that the Father is the God of th…[Read more]

Nick,If I said that God spoke the words “let there be light” in the beginning would that be a true statement?LU

Hi Nick,What Gen.1 is that?  It couldn't be the one in the Bible, for the creation took place in the six days that the Genesis in my Bible speaks of and it does not mention that creation as another or renewed creation.  I don't hang my hat on literal 24 hour days here but just the same, the six days are written in Genesis and do not speak of any o…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Feb. 27 2009,06:11)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 26 2009,06:30)Quote (Stu @ Feb. 25 2009,07:10)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 23 2009,14:06)I recognize God's voice when I suddenly get a thought that seems to come “out of left field” so to say.  In other words, it isn't in the flow of my natural thoughts although it might be an answer to my…[Read more]

Quote (TimothyVI @ Feb. 26 2009,16:21)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 27 2009,06:22)It is one thing to struggle with scripture but yet another thing to boldly degrade it.  May God be merciful on them who  do that if He so chooses.  That is not a light offense IMOBlessings,KathiHi Kathy,How big of an offense is it to questions the scriptures?Do you th…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 26 2009,15:41)Hi LU, So you think the Son of God was begotten after the earth and the angels were made?Hi Nick,This verse tells us that it took six days to make the heavens and the earth:Ex 20:1111 ” For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea and all that is in them, and rested on the seventh day;…[Read more]

Yes Nick,That I can agree with, an earth covered with water, an earth yet unprepared for man or beast and not formed. We can speculate all day and not prove what God specifically means to lay the foundation of the earth or exactly when the sons of God rejoiced because we really haven't got many specifics to go on. I know that God knows. The…[Read more]

Hi Nick,The formed earth was definetly not there before day one. I find it very interesting that scripture purposely states that it was formless and void. I think that it states that for a very specific purpose and makes a definite distinction between the condition of the earth before the light and then after the light. Who really knows what a…[Read more]

Hi Tim,Rest assured that when you are starting to think the worst of God you do not have a clear picture. Always give God the benefit of the doubt. I think that these verses may comfort you to know that human sacrifice is apalling to God also. Deut 12:30-31 31 ” You shall not behave thus toward the LORD your God, for every abominable act which…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 26 2009,13:49)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 27 2009,05:23)Bravo Keith on the reliability of the Bible, also the info about the virgin daughter, and your time and effort. Appreciated!KathiHi KathiThanks!IMO it is shameful for a believer to condemn or degrade the scriptures which contain the only accurate knowledge they have…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 26 2009,13:48)Hi LU, Of course the foundations of the Earth had already been laid, watched joyously by the angels, when the book of Genesis starts.Hi Nick,The formed foundations were not yet laid. Perhaps the “sons of God” rejoiced after the formed foundations were laid, which would make more sense anyway.LU

Quote (seekingtruth @ Feb. 25 2009,18:33)Kathi,Thanks for the words of encouragment, truly we have encouraged one another. I know I have forced nothing, I fought accepting it for months before the evidence overwhelmed me and I finally had to embrace it. I still struggle at times however now its “who do you tkink you are that God would give you a…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 25 2009,18:29)Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 26 2009,09:35)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 25 2009,17:25)Hi KathiQuote (Lightenup @ Feb. 11 2009,03:08).” The connection with the original creation suggests the meaning “originator” for ἀρχή here. BDAG 138 s.v. 3 gives the meaning “the first cause” for the word in Rev 3:14, a t…[Read more]

Bravo Keith on the reliability of the Bible, also the info about the virgin daughter, and your time and effort. Appreciated!Kathi

Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 25 2009,17:26)Hello all,Here is an interesting verse in four translations and below that, three different Greek Manuscripts of the same verse:Acts 20:28 The Holy Bible, New International Version®Keep watch over yourselves and all the flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers. Be shepherds of the church of God,…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 25 2009,17:43)Hi LU, Jesus is of the divine bloodline.God is his father.Hi Marty and Nick,The Son calls His Father-“God” and His Father calls the Son “God.” Who does the verse say shed His own blood? I know that Father is the Most High God. I know that the Father is the God of the Son. Is it good to continually ignore…[Read more]