Quote (Gene @ Mar. 03 2009,13:05)Lu………thats only if you assume the word (WORD) is referring to Jesus , Ask you self this question If John meant Jesus why didn't He simply say Jesus. He know who Jesus was all the time. He didn't put Jesus there because his wasn't talking about Jesus. This is what man has deduced, but the wording  does not…[Read more]

One of those blonder moments ey Mandy?…I have too many of them myself! It is good to laugh at ourselves.Kathi

zMandy, You say:Quote To say that Jesus is “God of God” is somewhat different in my mind.  Because I believe that Jesus is the true and literal Son of God…..I do believe he could be considered “of” God.  I do believe scripture teaches this.Keep your momentum here If you can accept the idea of Jesus being God of God , the Son of the Father, t…[Read more]

Thanks guys for that…How 'bout those snow crystals, huh… or the butterfly that sprung out of the cocoon that was prepared by itself as a caterpillar, two yet one. A bird feathering her nest…she just knows to put the soft stuff inside, she uses spider webs to hold it together…amazing! Then she feeds her newly hatched with carefulness.…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 01 2009,17:26)Hi, So Jesus is the Son of God. He is not the God of whom he is the son. trinity is of men.Hi Nick,You are right. He is the God who has a God.Hebrews 1:9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; Therefore God, thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows. Kathi

Hi ya'llAll the Greek manuscripts in this passage use theos (God/god) in theses verses and not kuriou (Lord/lord) I have included several versions of the same passage.Heb 1:8-98 But of the Son He says, “YOUR THRONE, O GOD, IS FOREVER AND EVER, AND THE RIGHTEOUS SCEPTER IS THE SCEPTER OF HIS KINGDOM. 9 “YOU HAVE LOVED RIGHTEOUSNESS AND HATED…[Read more]

Nick, I think that Georg was unclear since you moved the post of Gene's over to this thread and it didn't have quote boxes. It seems that his comments were meant to be directed to Gene. (Sorry for the confusion Georg)Kathi

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 01 2009,18:21)Hi LU,God is light. Jesus is the light because God is in him We too can be lights on the hill if God is in us.Hi Nick,John the Baptist also had God in him, even from the womb yet he declared he was not the light but came for a witness to bear witness to the true light.  That true Light is the Son of God.…[Read more]

Gotta runKathi

Nick,Light embodied the likeness of sinful flesh and became a man. He appeared like any other sinner yet had no sin, no darkness within. He took on our sins while on the cross, not before.1 Peter 2:2424 and He Himself bore our sins in His body on the cross,NASUWe can follow Him…absolutely!Kathi

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 01 2009,17:11)Hi Nick,Thanks for those verses.  They apply to common man.  Does one apply to the Son specifically?  Can you show me where the Son ever had darkness in Him? Or how about where He walked in darkness?  I'm not tryin to be difficult , really!LUHi Nick,Thanks but you gave me another verse about common man, can…[Read more]

Hi Nick,Thanks for those verses. They apply to common man. Does one apply to the Son specifically? Can you show me where the Son ever had darkness in Him? Or how about where He walked in darkness? I'm not tryin to be difficult , really!LU

I see that, thanks Nick.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 01 2009,13:24)Hi LU, Indeed since the Jordan that light has been in him.Hi Nick,I am confused by what you say. No where do I see that light comes “in” Him at the Jordan. He knew God to be His Father as a young boy, doesn't that demonstrate that He had “light” in Him?Maybe you can show me scripture that says that light…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ Mar. 01 2009,14:35)John 1:8 (New International Version)8He himself was not the light; he came only as a witness to the light.Jesus is the light of the world, but is he THE light?  John seems to think that he is a witness of the light, but he is not the light himself.  Kathi, doesn't this go directly against your theory?  I du…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ Mar. 01 2009,11:29)LU……….Does the bible say ADAM Himself sinned or that sin (entered in through) Him, the first place we see sin mentioned was in the case of Cain, and before he sinned God told Him sin was at His Door and He must master it. It would be interesting to get the clarity on this. The question was did Adam Himself…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 01 2009,03:20)Hi LU,Matthew 4:16The people which sat in darkness saw great light; and to them which sat in the region and shadow of death light is sprung up.Luke 1:79To give light to them that sit in darkness and in the shadow of death, to guide our feet into the way of peace.John 12:46I am come a light into the world,…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ Mar. 01 2009,00:27)To all…………> Eze 28:2 Son of man, say unto the Prince of Tyrus,, Thus saith the LORD GOD, Because thine heart is lifted up. and thou saith, I sit in the seat of GOD, in the midest of the Seas, yet thou art a (MAN) and not GOD, though thou set thine Heart as the Heart of GOD:Now notice verse 3 Behold thou art…[Read more]

Hi Nick,Thanks! I had the idea to revisit this verse today and I realized something interesting.This is a lamentation that some scholars think is speaking about satan: “You had the seal of perfection, Full of wisdom and perfect in beauty. 13″You were in Eden, the garden of God; Every precious stone was your covering:…[Read more]

Hi All,I came across this passage this morning. Some find that the term “firstborn” can refer to merely pre-eminence and in the Bible we see that concept is apparent but we also see this: Deut 21:15-1715 “If a man has two wives, the one loved and the other unloved, and both the loved and the unloved have borne him sons, if the firstborn son…[Read more]