Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 05 2009,15:39)Hi LU, God did not tell you what you have become fixated about did He?Hi Nick,Do you want to paraphrase what you think my understanding here is and I will address your question. Some of the understanding that I have, I believe was given me because I would have never come up with it on my own and so I…[Read more]

Hi Gene,You say:Quote LU……….What i believe is Jesus was forordained or in the plan and foreknowledge of God way before He was ever born on earth, He certainely was of GOD, But is He God of God? Can you say that Gene? Does the Son of God = God of God?Peace,Kathi

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 05 2009,14:37)Hi LU, I thought God spoke to you about something else and this is all your idea?Hi Nick,Can you rephrase that comment? I do not grasp what you are saying/asking.Thanks,Kathi

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 05 2009,13:34)Hi lU, So light is a person but darkness is not?Hi Nick,When I say that the first word from God in scripture is “Let there be Light” I say that it has something to do with the beginning of life within His Son and refers to the term “firstborn of all creation.” Sometimes I share what I think the specifics…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 05 2009,13:35)Hi LU, Can light in scripture ever be seen by you now as justLIGHT?ILLUMINATION? UNDERSTANDING?Hi Nick,Obviously the term “light” can mean more than one thing.   It doesn't always refer to the Son of God, for instance it can mean understanding, and it can refer to physical light from the sun and moon and…[Read more]

Quote (rhemareceiver @ Mar. 05 2009,13:26)Why is it so difficult for people to understand the fact that many of our so called “doctrines” were formed by the reasoning of men rather than by the declarations of Scripture itself?  The fact that the doctrine of the Trinity was formulated, stated, and propagated by the Apostate Roman Catholic Church…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 05 2009,12:45)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 06 2009,03:06)Hi all,Since this is the trinity thread I will post here some of my concerns of the trinity doctrine. I am not trying to pick on the trinitarians here, many of my friends and family are trinitarians.We all know that the word “trinity” is not in the scriptures but…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 05 2009,11:31)Hi LU, If you believe Jeus is the LIGHT in Gen 1 WHO IS THE DARKNESS?Hi Nick,Good question.  Darkness is not a person or a being of some sort.  When God said “Let there be Light” the opposite also began-darkness.  Like when he formed the mountains there were the valleys also. You can't have one without th…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ Mar. 05 2009,12:05)Lu…….I believe one of the problems is understanding what Spirit really is. I have come to see it as (intellect). We are told the God has SEVEN of these Spirits, I believe the are intellects of GOD That scripture says goes through out the whole earth, and Jesus now has these because He has the fullness of the…[Read more]

Gene,Can you agree that the Son of God is the God of (from) GOD?LU

Hi all,Since this is the trinity thread I will post here some of my concerns of the trinity doctrine. I am not trying to pick on the trinitarians here, many of my friends and family are trinitarians.We all know that the word “trinity” is not in the scriptures but there are MANY words in the doctrine that make bold claims that are NOT in the…[Read more]

Hi Kerwin and The Thinker,I am not sure what your Jesus view is so very simply, could you please tell me if you are trinitarian or not and if not, how you are different.Thanks,LU

Quote (Not3in1 @ Mar. 04 2009,15:56)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 05 2009,03:45)Hi guys,Thanks for thinking this through with me.I believe that something that is created is going to have a different nature than its creator.  Something that is born on the other hand is going to have the same nature of the one he came from.That's the difference.  The S…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ Mar. 04 2009,23:01)LU….Why did Jesus say the least in the kingdom of God was will be greater then John then. And you are right it does say filled. Spirit is intellect and if that is Holy then it is Holy intellect. I wonder if being filled or having the Spirit upon is the same thing , Maybe it is the same i am not sure about this. I…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 04 2009,19:42)Hi LU, Neither was john the WORD though he spoke the words of God too.That is right Nick,John the Baptist spoke God's words, was filled with the Holy Spirit from the womb, lived a humble existence yet was not credited with being the “Light” or the “Word.” He was not THE Light or THE Word, that was unique…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ Mar. 04 2009,20:18)LU……………….John the baptist is not John we read of in the rest of the scriptures. The Spirit was (ON) Him not in Him as it was On the  disciples until the Day of Pentecost, at that time the Spirit came to be with in them, Thats why Jesus could say the least into the Kingdom was greater the John the…[Read more]

Hi Nick,The Father is the source of the Son's illumination and the Son illumines us. Don't you think that it is curious that John the Baptist who had the Spirit of God within him said that he was not the light. He was out there testifying about Jesus yet he said specifically that he was not the light but the true light was Christ. So, I believe…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 04 2009,13:45)Hi KathiRespectfully I disagree with you because I do not believe there is any umambiguous scriptures that shows the prexisting God that was with God had a begining. IMO part of the nature of what makes God God is he is infinite and eternal. Therefore for Jesus do be all that the Father is in nature…[Read more]

Hi guys,Thanks for thinking this through with me.I believe that something that is created is going to have a different nature than its creator. Something that is born on the other hand is going to have the same nature of the one he came from.That's the difference. The Son of God has the same nature as the Father. The Father is greater because…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 03 2009,17:16)Hi LU, Did God not create other sons who rejoiced as the foundations of earth were laid?Hi Nick,Yes, the other “sons” (angels) were created of God, not born of God. They were created by the Father through the Son. This likely happened on day one as well as the domain of darkness which was empty.The only…[Read more]