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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 17 years, 2 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 26 2009,21:55)Hi, God is one.The Father is the one men call GODHi Nick,For us there is one GOD and one God of GOD, together they have unity as our authority. Our authority is the Father and the Son, not the Father only. It is the Father's good pleasure to include the Son with Himself as our authority to love and care…[Read more]

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    Quote (seekingtruth @ Mar. 27 2009,09:21)I agree with Kathi, the Son is not equal to the Father but I believe scripture is clear the Father has given Jesuis all power in this corporeal realm which when all things are complete He submits back to the Father.Ephesians 1:21 far above all rule and authority, power and dominion, and every title that can…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 27 2009,00:44)Lightenup(Kathi)Quote I just don't think you are getting my mindset.That may be so since I can only go by the way I interpret your words but we communicate so you and I can straighten up any misconceptions that may occur.Lightenup(Kathi)Quote If we worship the Son are we not worshipping the Father also? We cannot…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 26 2009,21:21)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 27 2009,12:27)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 26 2009,14:16)Hi LU,Do you take this to mean we should worship two gods?Hi Nick,If we worship the Son are we not worshipping the Father also? We cannot worship the one without the other, they are the saving Godhead, the Most High God and His Son…[Read more]

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    Marty and Kerwin,I just don't think you are getting my mindset.

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 26 2009,14:16)Hi LU,Do you take this to mean we should worship two gods?Hi Nick,If we worship the Son are we not worshipping the Father also? We cannot worship the one without the other, they are the saving Godhead, the Most High God and His Son (the begotten God). The Most High God does not save us apart from His Son.…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 25 2009,23:22)Hi lU, Should you ask servants of God to worship another servant?Hi Nick, Kerwin, Marty,If God tells the angels to worship the Son is it not ok for us to worship the Son also.Heb 1:66 And when He again brings the firstborn into the world, He says, “AND LET ALL THE ANGELS OF GOD WORSHIP HIM.” NASUNo matter…[Read more]

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    Marty, The Father calls Him God. I know that He is not the one Most High God but He is still called God and worshipped. You won't call Him God and worship Him?Kathi

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    Hi Marty,Thanks for the answer. Another question…when do you think the Son of God became God?Blessings,Kathi

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 17 years, 2 months ago

    Quote (thethinker @ Mar. 25 2009,11:39)Lightenup said:Quote Everything the Son does is actually the Father's work.LU,Your statement above is true only while Christ was in the flesh. The Son's works while He was in the flesh were actually the Father's works. But before Jesus assumed flesh it was all actually His own work. The Father Himself…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 17 years, 2 months ago

    Hi all,I believe the scriptures teach us that the Son of God does the work of the Father. He did that during creation as well as in the flesh. Everything the Son does is actually the Father's work. John 4:34″My food is to do the will of Him who sent Me and to accomplish His work. (that is Jesus speaking)Heb 1:10″YOU, LORD, IN THE BEGINNING LAID…[Read more]

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    Quote (942767 @ Mar. 24 2009,22:26)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 24 2009,12:08)Marty,Scripture in John 1 or Hebrews 1 does not state “spirit of the son” anywhere but that is what you state…it's not there.KathiHi LU:In Genesis it is written that God made man in His own image, and in 1 Co 15 the scriptures state that the first Adam was made a living…[Read more]

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    Marty,Scripture in John 1 or Hebrews 1 does not state “spirit of the son” anywhere but that is what you state…it's not there.Kathi

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    Mandy,I am happy for you!Kathi

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    Hi Marty,You asked:Quote Quote Psa 82:5 They know not, neither will they understand; they walk on in darkness: all the foundations of the earth are out of course. Psa 82:6 I have said, Ye gods; and all of you children of the most High. Psa 82:7 But ye shall die like men, and fall And this is intersting, I hadn't noticed this before now. What…[Read more]

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    Hi Marty and Kerwin,Thank you for your thoughtful replies. A big difference that is see between the Son and others that may be referred to as Elohyim is they are never credited with laying the foundation of the earth and heaven being the work of their hands. Also Hebrews 1 is very comparable to John 1 and helps explain that the “word” is indeed…[Read more]

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    Irene,I'm glad they figured out what you have. At least they can begin to address it. I hope you are feeling better soon.Love ya,Kathi

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    Quote (Cindy @ Mar. 20 2009,07:57)By grace through faith in Christ we are saved, not by ourselves so no one can boast.Ephesians 2: 8 ” For by grace you have been saved through faith and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God.             2: 9 not of works lest anyone should boast.Peace and Love IreneIrene,Good verse, thanks!Love,Kathi

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    Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 19 2009,11:47)Hi Marty and Kerwin,Something that I do not understand is that you both want to teach what is true but neither of you acknowledges the Son of God as the God that the Father speaks of in this passage below in Hebrews.  This passage acknowledges that the “God” that the Father is referring to (His Son), has a…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 20 2009,01:07)I made an error and did not include all my last quote in the quote box.  It actually ends after the word Amen and then comes by final comment.  I am sorry if this causes any confusion.Hi Kerwin,You can ask for editing rights and fix this type of thing. Go to the help desk and ask t8 for editing rights. After h…[Read more]

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