Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 21 2009,12:11)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 21 2009,10:44)Quote (thethinker @ Aug. 21 2009,04:42)WorshippingJesus wrote:Quote ”And if the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead is living in you”, he who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies “through his Spirit, who lives in you”. Rom…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Aug. 21 2009,04:42)WorshippingJesus wrote:Quote ”And if the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead is living in you”, he who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies “through his Spirit, who lives in you”. Rom 8:11WJ,Good passage. It says that the Spirit raised Christ from ther dead too…[Read more]

Keith,Is your fleshly body an “it” or is it a complete person on its own? Can your mind be intimately associated with your fleshly body? The mind isn't the flesh and the flesh isn't the mind. They are both parts of a person yet they are intimately associated with each other. If you stub your toe, your toe sends messages to your mind and your…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Aug. 20 2009,16:46)Lightenup said to WJ:Quote Now, according to some trinitarian reasoning that we have had lately, love must be a person, and since we are to abide in love and love is to be in us, and since God is love, love must be God and that would give us yet another separate person of the ummm trinity?  No, couldn't be…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 20 2009,16:53)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 20 2009,16:08)WJ,You said:Quote Jesus calls the Holy Spirit “He, him”, the Spirit is a person!Jesus did not use English…sorry.  The translators gave the neuter noun for “spirit” a male gender, we can blame them.  BTW, to base your beliefs on pronouns that are often misleading t…[Read more]

WJ,You said:Quote Jesus calls the Holy Spirit “He, him”, the Spirit is a person!Jesus did not use English…sorry. The translators gave the neuter noun for “spirit” a male gender, we can blame them. BTW, to base your beliefs on pronouns that are often misleading translating from Greek to English is a shaky foundation.

WJWhat went past you? The idea that an “it” can be said to do things. You have been ranting about how does an “it” do this and how does an “it” do that. Well, I gave you an answer but yet you still can't see it as possible for a part of God to grieve or lead or comfort. BTW, an “it” can do amazing things since “it” is a most incredible part of…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 20 2009,14:09)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 20 2009,11:12)Hi all,The Spirit that we are united in is a part of the living God.  The Spirit is united in Christ and can be united in us and that's good news!!!Phil 2:1-2Be Like Christ 2 Therefore if there is any encouragement in Christ, if there is any consolation of love, if…[Read more]

I think that it would be good to see what an “it” can do:Love,what is love?IT is kindIT is patientIT rejoices with the truthIT bears all thingsIT believes all thingsIT hopes all thingsIT endures all thingsNow, according to some trinitarian reasoning that we have had lately, love must be a person, and since we are to abide in love and love is to be…[Read more]

Hi all,The Spirit that we are united in is a part of the living God. The Spirit is united in Christ and can be united in us and that's good news!!!Phil 2:1-2Be Like Christ 2 Therefore if there is any encouragement in Christ, if there is any consolation of love, if there is any fellowship of the Spirit, if any affection and compassion, 2 make my…[Read more]

Hi JNFOC,May the Lord supply all your needs according to His riches in glory. Would you be willing to PM me your address?God loves you and so do I,Kathi

Hi all,I have been studying 2 Cor 3 tonight trying to get a better handle of that chapter and what God is saying through it. I will paste the chapter here but before that chapter, I would like to paste a passage about changing from glory to glory and how the Son (the second Adam) is now a life-giving spirit.Quote 1 Cor 15:40-4840 There are also…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 19 2009,12:17)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 19 2009,22:18)Hi BD, Human predictions are not prophecy from God.You follow a man who was not following our God's Spirit but some other.so you are saying that a Man can predict the division of Christianity?But the only problem with what you are saying is that a man didn't predict…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ Aug. 18 2009,00:51)Who lives inside of me?Well, my understanding is that the Father has had a Son named Jesus.  This Son is a true and literal Son – he calls out to him, “Abba, Father.”.  We are told that because of Jesus, we too can call out to the Father in the same way.  Why?  Because Jesus is our brother.We are adopted sib…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 18 2009,19:22)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 18 2009,09:28)Exactly Keith,The Holy Spirit is not included in these verse of “Knowing the Father or the Son” or “seeing the Father” because the Spirit is not a person like Jesus and the Father but a part of the Father.But you have created a conundrum for yourself.Let me use you…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 18 2009,01:38)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 17 2009,23:55)Nick,You are right. If there were several persons only two of them always knew each other.  Read here:Matt 11:2727 “All things have been handed over to Me by My Father; and no one knows the Son except the Father; nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and…[Read more]

Nick,You are right. If there were several persons only two of them always knew each other. Read here:Matt 11:2727 “All things have been handed over to Me by My Father; and no one knows the Son except the Father; nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and anyone to whom the Son wills to reveal Him. NASUAllow me to substitute “the Father”…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 17 2009,20:42)Hi all In another thread it has been inferred that the Father and the Son are in the believer but it is not the Father and the Son personally! Instead, it is believed that what is in the believer is an amorphous “It” that is personal but is not a person! Which is ridiculous and IMO disgraces the Spirit…[Read more]

Hi JNFOC,I'll pray for your job situation. Times are rough! I hope your interview went well today.God bless,Kathi

Hi Irene,My vagabond boys are back in TN safe and sound and full of stories about their escapade in CA. Thanks for your prayers and for asking.Love, Kathi