Quote (SimplyForgiven @ May 31 2010,15:03)Hi ALL,Very quickly im late to work, i usually respond late at night. Note: i have breifly read most of your responses. Most of you are off topic. Let me be clear. The devil fell period.  He is evil.  Adam knew God, and also fell.  Lets not ignore scripture.Jodi you ignore scriputre alot, if anything yo…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 31 2010,22:47)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 01 2010,14:38)T8………The term “firstborn” still references a Position even if you apply it to a literial first born son. Jesus could not have (become) the First Born Son of GOD unless He recieved it after his berth through an adoption process, because he would already have been…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 31 2010,21:21)Hi LU,Are you a sister of Jesus? How?Hi Nick,I know that is your way of saying that you cannot point to a scripture that speaks of any time when a special designation of the Son as the 'firstborn' took place. Thanks!I am a sister and a servant of the Jehovah our Righteousness by adoption. How about you, are…[Read more]

I don't believe that anyone can show some scripture that clearly connects the Son of God with a time of His 'appointing' as firstborn as we can with the appointed firstborn that David and Israel are. So, if there was no specific appointment, then the natural meaning of the term 'firstborn' would be the default understanding…that of being the…[Read more]

Thanks RM,I have appreciated you also. You are right in that we all reach out to the lost with the love of Christ. If you read this, I am wondering if you have any creative approaches to reaching the lost?Love ya,Kathi

Thanks Irene,We just got back home. My dad is a little stronger, thanks for all the prayers from you and the happyman.Love,Kathi

Thanks Happyman and Irene,Your prayers are appreciated! My dad has CHF, and kidney disease. He is a little stronger each day that I am here.Bless you both!

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ May 27 2010,10:31)lightenup………What you are doing though is making Jesus the same as the Father, and like your example of DNA, does that would mean the Son is the (SAME) as the Father? And yes while we are all human we are (NOT) exactly the same as each other. God's Seed is in (ALL) who have his spirit (IN) them, but…[Read more]

Nick,Jesus doesn't glorify Himself…the Father glorifies the Son who is called Jehovah our Righteousness.

Thanks Irene,We made it up here safe and sound. He is 75.Love,Kathi

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 25 2010,22:26)Hi Kathi,You said:Quote Great!  Is He Lord or lord?He is lord in the Greek.  Don't get so hung up on the capital letters.  A noble man is lord.  King David was lord.  Christ is lord.  Jehovah is lord. You said:Quote So, don't limit yourself by what Jesus taught about Himself. I don't.  Nowhere in script…[Read more]

Take your time SF. Thanks for your consideration on the matter.Blessings!

Hi all,My father is extremely weak again and is having trouble breathing so we have made a very quick decision to take the 10 hour drive up to help him. Please pray for his strength and spirit.Thank you,Kathi

Quote (Arnold @ May 25 2010,10:51)Once again some of our Daughters friend has died,  She went to High School with Her and is the same age as our Daughter, 38.  She leaves behind three little boys.  Please pray for Her Family and the boys.  Also my Son's friends Daughter just had back surgery and they are talking about a Blood Transfusion.  Sh…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ May 24 2010,02:07)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ May 23 2010,02:17)Quote (Lightenup @ May 23 2010,13:45)Hi SF,I'm glad we are agreeing on something.  That's always nice About your comments:Quote t doesnt make since, How can you be full God, and NOT be God. From what your telling me, its like he took a seed and just planted it, and…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 25 2010,22:45)Hi Kathi,You said:Quote Now, if your thinking is correct and Jesus isn't part of God, Now he is a PART of God?  I thought he was a separate God that you also worship in violation of Scripture.  But now you think “Jehovah the Son” is the same being as Jehovah our God?  I'll answer your post soon.peace and lo…[Read more]

Quote (karmarie @ May 24 2010,18:31)Quote (Lightenup @ May 25 2010,04:46)First of all, I believe that before Jesus' resurrection, the Holy Spirit was of the Father, the inner-person of the Father that, while remaining in Him, can flow from Him to be everywhere all at once.  After the resurrection, that same Spirit that was already filling the Son…[Read more]

Quote What about a Topic that a member can only start in order to give some background info on themselves, then the member can request that the Admin either closes the topic in which case there is no debate, and if they keep it open, then people can reply which allows for debate.That is ok to close the topic but I think it would be better for the…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 24 2010,22:32)Hi Kathi,You said:Quote All angels would fit into the neighbor category, the non-fallen ones anyway.  Interesting.  You put angels closer to mortal humans than to God – even though they are spirit and not flesh.  I don't.  Now don't get me wrong, I know that Jesus is somewhere in between angels and God, jus…[Read more]

Maybe in the member's profile page there could be a link to their personal belief's thread within the member profiles section which they alone post on and also a link to a challenge page to challenge that member on. Also, maybe only the member's could start these two threads. If the member doesn't start a challenge thread to their beliefs then…[Read more]