Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 24 2010,17:28)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 24 2010,17:00)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 24 2010,16:27)Hi AllAthanasius opposed the Arius belief that Jesus had a beginning before coming in the flesh.Opposition to ArianismFurther information: Arian controversyIn about 319, when Athanasius was a deacon, a presbyter named…[Read more]

I am reposting what Chrysostom says about how the Father beget another “of Himself, like Himself, except Him not being the Father.”Quote “And every tongue,” should “confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.” That is, that all should say so; and this is glory to the Father. Seest thou how wherever the Son is glorifi…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 24 2010,15:57)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 24 2010,15:34)The term 'eternally begotten' is quite an elusive term, don't you think?Kathi You mean like “God begetting a God” before the ages or time?WJKeith,How many quotes do I have to show you that say “God OF God” before you will get it?

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 24 2010,16:03)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 24 2010,15:34)I would like to find out more from those who use that term as to what specifically that means. It could just mean that during eternity past He was begotten and that lines up with 'begotten before the ages.'  If it doesn't mean that once He was pre-begotten and then…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 24 2010,16:06)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 24 2010,15:34)The majority of Christian trinitarians agree with the creeds.KathiAnd so do I. I have already shown you that I can say that Jesus was begotten from eternity just like we were chosen in him before the foundation of the world.WJWell Keith, if that is what you are…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 24 2010,16:27)Hi AllAthanasius opposed the Arius belief that Jesus had a beginning before coming in the flesh.Opposition to ArianismFurther information: Arian controversyIn about 319, when Athanasius was a deacon, a presbyter named Arius came into a direct conflict with Alexander of Alexandria. It appears that Arius…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 24 2010,15:55)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 24 2010,14:29)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 24 2010,13:55)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 24 2010,11:18)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 23 2010,15:38)God exists, He says that He was, He is, and He is to come.  He is the before, the during and the after. “He is the before what”? Time “He…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 24 2010,14:29)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 24 2010,13:55)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 24 2010,11:18)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 23 2010,15:38)God exists, He says that He was, He is, and He is to come.  He is the before, the during and the after. “He is the before what”? Time “He is the during what”? Time “He is the after…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 24 2010,14:42)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 24 2010,14:10)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 24 2010,13:28)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 24 2010,13:00)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 24 2010,11:11)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 23 2010,15:38)Eternity is a time period without beginning and without end.KathiSo a “time period” is synonomous…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 24 2010,13:28)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 24 2010,13:00)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 24 2010,11:11)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 23 2010,15:38)Eternity is a time period without beginning and without end.KathiSo a “time period” is synonomous with “eternity”?Hogwash.WJNo Keith,You did not include the rest of the sentence.…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 24 2010,11:18)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 23 2010,15:38)God exists, He says that He was, He is, and He is to come.  He is the before, the during and the after. “He is the before what”? Time “He is the during what”? Time “He is the after what”? TimeGod is the only being that has “Timeless Existence”!Since Jesus was…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 24 2010,11:11)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 23 2010,15:38)Eternity is a time period without beginning and without end.KathiSo a “time period” is synonomous with “eternity”?Hogwash.WJNo Keith,You did not include the rest of the sentence. Eternity is a time period without beginning and without end.The 'without beginning and…[Read more]

Thanks Dennison,The word in 1 John 1 is called the word of life so maybe that has something to do with the 'action' idea. If you think about it, God always existed and then there had to be a first thing to exist in a living way after Him. So, that would be the 'word of life' and revealed to us as the Son of God. The Son is an extension of that…[Read more]

Irene,You are so funny. I posted this video to my facebook a few days ago and you told me not to listen to this guy.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 23 2010,19:52)Hi Kathi,Here's what we know so far.  Scripture SPECIFICALLY says to worship Jehovah God ONLY.  It's is said many time in the OT, and Jesus quotes those same words in the NT.  You think the NT sheds light on some of what was said and done in the OT.  I couldn't agree more.  But the NT NEVER nullifies anyt…[Read more]

Keith,Eternity is a time period without beginning and without end. The period of time in which the earth exists happens during that eternity. How time is measured is up to God's design for what He is doing, i.e. God put the sun and moon in the sky and caused rotation and orbits for our realm. What He does for another realm may or may not be the…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 22 2010,00:42)Here is a quote from Athenagoras and you certainly won't find the idea of three 'persons' here:Quote CHAPTER X.—THE CHRISTIANS WORSHIP THE FATHER, SON, AND HOLY GHOST.That we are not atheists, therefore, seeing that we acknowledge one God, uncreated, eternal, invisible, impassible, incomprehensible, i…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 22 2010,17:10)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 22 2010,15:22)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 22 2010,10:34)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 22 2010,08:49)And yes, beginning and end have meaning because of the existence of time.KathiExactly, and if you take away the beginning and the end then you have no time but only eternity.Once…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Sep. 22 2010,01:35)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 22 2010,01:11)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Sep. 20 2010,13:44)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 20 2010,01:23)Dennison,Thanks for your picture. So are you saying by this picture that the Father is a 'part of' God, the Son is a 'part of' God, and the Holy Spirit is a 'part of' God?Lu,No, lets…[Read more]

Pierre,You are really having trouble with this quote box feature. When you are going to begin your quote, push the quote button, then paste your quote after that, then push your quote button again to end the quote and then your box will appear in your post.I am not sure what you were wanting me to look at in the above quote. Was it the word…[Read more]