Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 30 2010,12:00)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 31 2010,03:45)He doesn't have anyone worshiping Him as the Father but as the Messiah, Son of David, and the Son of God who the Father considers as much a part of Himself as His own Outstretched Arm, as His own Word, and as the radiance of His own glory.Hi Kathi,But are we to worship…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 30 2010,12:12)Kathi:Quote THe point of this exercise was to demonstrate that the people were recognizing Jesus as coming from God and able to do the supernatural acts…they were seeing Him as a KING from heaven and not just another earthly king and they were responding in worship towards Him.No Kathi.  Like Nicodemus…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 30 2010,12:03)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 31 2010,10:49)Quote (david @ Oct. 30 2010,01:58)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 30 2010,16:45)Luke 4:8Jesus answered, “It is written: 'Worship the Lord your God and serve him only.' “Not one pen-stroke Kathi.What people tend not to see about this verse, is that he said: “It is written.”The…[Read more]

Carrie Underwood How Great Thou Arthttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhvaDJTUmrUThe last time I sang this song was in June at my father's funeral. The church was full and the whole congregation sang out which seemed like their whole heart. The congregation was a mixture of many denominations and I felt, for the duration of that hymn that there was…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Oct. 30 2010,01:58)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 30 2010,16:45)Luke 4:8Jesus answered, “It is written: 'Worship the Lord your God and serve him only.' “Not one pen-stroke Kathi.What people tend not to see about this verse, is that he said: “It is written.”The quote was a quote from the Heb scriptures about “Jehovah,” the Father.It was…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Oct. 30 2010,01:49)continued….Although it was a common thing for the Jews to bow before authority to show respect, Mordecai refused to bow before Haman. This was because Haman, as an Agagite, was very likely an Amalekite, concerning whom Jehovah had said that he would completely wipe out their remembrance from under the heavens…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Oct. 30 2010,01:33)Here's my problem:  IMAGINE a line of kings, each having sons, and each of those sons become kings.So, there is an old King named David.  He gives birth to a king named…Solomon.  Let's say they are both kings.When Solomon was a child, David was Solomon's Father and Solomon's king.  David was the king of Sol…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Oct. 30 2010,01:23)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 29 2010,17:39)Quote (david @ Oct. 29 2010,01:29)Quote David,I think that the word 'very' just means 'true.'  That isn't nonsensical.  I guess that it is said for emphasis.LU, can you put it into a complete senstence then?  Would it be: “Jesus is truely the God of the true God”?Is that wh…[Read more]

Now for those of you who only want to put up verses using the term proskuneo that apply to the Father, this might help the readers see that there are plenty where the term 'proskuneo' is applied to the Son. Also, this is what I was asking Mike to do…so Mike, I saved you some time And here is a list of passages that show that Jesus is receiving…[Read more]

IreneMat 15:9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching doctrines the commandments of men.You use this verse a lot…is the context of this verse within a context of someone worshiping the Son? No, actually the context is about those who say they worship God but neglect their elderly parents needs.Matt 15:3-93 And He answered and said to them,…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 29 2010,00:03)Here is another example that speaks of Christ as a part of God…Quote But to whom”is the arm of the Lord revealed?” (Is 53:1) And what does this “arm” really mean?  In Deuteronomy 33:27 there is a deep promise: “The eternal God is thy refuge, and undereath are the everlasting arms.” Targum Onkelos…[Read more]

When you worship the Father in Truth and in spirit, you will see the Son as being as much a part of the Father as if He was His own arm, even as the radiance of His own glory.2Ki 17:36But the LORD, who brought you up out of Egypt with mighty power and outstretched arm, is the one you must worship. To him you shall bow down and to him offer…[Read more]

Mike,We know what ALL the kings will do to Messiah, the Prince if we read this:Psalms 72:1 O God, give thy judgment to the king, and thy righteousness to the king’s son; 2 that he may judge thy people with righteousness, and thy poor with judgment.3 Let the mountains and the hills raise peace to thy people: 4 he shall judge the poor of the p…[Read more]

Oh, look Mike, one more verse, that makes 24 verses that I used on this page alone. You say you are angry, you might consider 'convicted' as an alternative to 'angry' if you allow the Holy Spirit to refine your understanding. Conviction can lead to repentance and that would bring freedom. Allow it…it is up to you.

Mike,Quote Paul was a Pharisee who was turned to Christ. And I showed you where he told the Jewish council that he only worships the same God they worship.Paul knew the difference between God and His Son. He knew which ONE of them to worship. But you have missed that part of the scriptural teaching………..along with the many times it is…[Read more]

Wow, Mike,I counted 23 verses of SCRIPTURE on this page alone and you say that I have stopped being scriptural? Are you reading these verses that I am giving you?I counted about 72 verses of SCRIPTURE on the page just prior to this.Is scripture not scripture to you?

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 29 2010,23:53)David……….Kathi's calling you! Mike…Kathi's proving you wrong.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 29 2010,22:00)Kathi:Quote How is your list coming, the one where you list the supernatural acts of Jesus just before He was given proskuneo?I gave you one to start with.  The one where he was “worshipped” right in front of the Pharisees and they didn't mind at all. Kathi:Quote Here is a passage for you that speaks about…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 29 2010,23:34)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 30 2010,15:29)So if you still don't think that the Pharisees even minded at all that Jesus was given credit for opening the blind man's eyes, let alone worship, you are the one that is needing some wet clay, my friend.Really Kathi,And after reading this, and knowing how much of a thorn…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 29 2010,23:28)Please! Let's see if the “exercise” will render any “proof”, okay?1.  If someone had “proskuneo'd” Moses right after God performed a sign through him, would it then be “God-Worship”?  Would you then consider Moses a “part of the fullness of God Himself”?2.  If the word “proskuneo” was used for what the fo…[Read more]