Quote (theodorej @ Nov. 12 2010,07:26)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 09 2010,14:40)I need to share this radio broadcast about a conservative Christian's testimony regarding God showing him hell…http://www.sidroth.org/site….rl=1121Greetings Lightenup……The messianic message is one the few messages that speaks to Apostolic Christianty which is where…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Nov. 09 2010,09:26)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 08 2010,23:18)Keith,When you had your first daughter did your essence divide and leave you with less essence than you had before you had her?  Essence is nature and in your case it is human nature.  Yes or No, did you have less 'essence' after your daughter was conceived than b…[Read more]

Keith,I don't agree that you or your wife became less human after the birth of your children than before. My husband and I certainly didn't. More tired certainly, but not less human. I don't have much time now…later.

Shimmer,I really don't understand the Bible to say that there will be punishment for the lost for eternity otherwise the lost would have to be given eternal life too just not eternal life in heaven. But I do believe in hell and those who refuse the knowledge and love of Jesus will go there till hell is destroyed. I believe once they are there,…[Read more]

You may have listened Shimmer but you missed the whole message and what God's desire actually is.

Shimmer,Obviously you didn't listen to the broadcast to come away with that opinion.

Young's Literal TranslationHosea 4:6 Cut off have been My people for lack of knowledge, Because thou knowledge hast rejected, I reject thee from being priest to Me, And thou forgettest the law of thy God, I forget thy sons, I also!New American Standard Bible (©1995)My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. Because you have rejected…[Read more]

Keith,When you had your first daughter did your essence divide and leave you with less essence than you had before you had her? Essence is nature and in your case it is human nature. Yes or No, did you have less 'essence' after your daughter was conceived than before she was conceived?

Remember to only mark a choice if you disagree with the Apostle's Creed and only mark the one choice that you disagree with the most. If you agree with the entire creed tell us in a post. If you disagree, tell us, and what other points you disagree with and why.Let's see where this takes us…thanks!

Gene or Kerwin,Can you give an example of a man claiming to having done something before his conception that was written in the active voice in the Greek? Jesus did. Can you give an example of God claiming that the living man did something before his conception that was written in the active voice in the Greek? God claims that the Son did…[Read more]

Keith,Well I have proven that your idea of the Son becoming a Son of God in time and not before the ages is certainly a 'bastardation' of what the fathers who wrote the creeds meant. So, as a person who defines the term 'eternally begotten' as if you were defining the term 'unbegotten' and trying to claim that a Father and a Son as two beings…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Nov. 02 2010,02:05)Quote AND IN THE MIDDLE OF ALL OF THIS HE SAYS “I AND THE FATHER ARE ONE”.If another person who knows better, misapplies this scripture again, my head is going to explode.David,Don't explode, seek to understand:John 5:18 For this reason the Jews tried all the harder to kill him; not only was he breaking the…[Read more]

Keith,I don't think that I said that the church contradicted themselves, I think they added ideas that are ambiguous and cannot be proven with scripture and then put upon those a heavy burden by judging those who don't understand the added ideas as eternally damned. They say it is a mystery…just believe. I think that is not of God, to just…[Read more]

Keith,I worship one true God and I include Jesus in the one true God.

Bump for t8.

Keith,I believe the message of the creeds is that there is one true God, the Father and one begotten God OF/from the unbegotten God, and one Spirit of God. All of ONE essence.

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Nov. 06 2010,10:24)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 05 2010,17:05)I can accept infinite essence of the Son.  I can't accept that begotten before the ages means, as far as I can tell, the same thing as unbegotten before the ages.  You are defining begotten as unbegotten, imo.KathiI accept the other definition of 'Begotten” that i…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Nov. 06 2010,10:17)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 05 2010,17:09)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Nov. 05 2010,14:55)Keith,Quote To say Jesus is another being from God is to divide the essence.Can you tell me your definition of the word 'being' here?Also, what do you mean when you say 'divide the essence?'Can you please explain this in…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ Nov. 05 2010,22:22)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 06 2010,14:51)I can have my opinions of Teresa.  She was given millions of dollars but puts on the pauper appearance.  Was she playing  a role to tug at people's pocket books?  I started wondering about her when I learned that she would allow people to die without knowing there is onl…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ Nov. 05 2010,17:46)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 06 2010,11:27)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Nov. 05 2010,15:24)Peirre If you are not gonna add anything to the discussion then please stop spamming the thread with foolish diatribe. This is considered to be in violation of sight rules you know?WJTotally agree Keith!  Why bother with trying…[Read more]