Quote (Baker @ Nov. 13 2010,22:44)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 14 2010,13:30)Irene,This is not about saying the Apostle's Creed in church necessarily, it is more about whether it is scriptural.  You should understand the difference of capital and small letters.  You preach that Lord and lord are different and even God and god indicate a difference b…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 13 2010,22:15)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 14 2010,20:30)Irene,This is not about saying the Apostle's Creed in church necessarily, it is more about whether it is scriptural.  You should understand the difference of capital and small letters.  You preach that Lord and lord are different and even God and god indicate a d…[Read more]

Mark,I also worship Jesus, and the Father and the Spirit but I believe that the Father is the one true God and the Son is the one true God from God as His Son and the Spirit is the Spirit of the Father, given and proceeding from the Son. I consider the Son and Spirit as much a part of the Father as His own arm, as the radiance of His glory, as…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Nov. 09 2010,15:49)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 09 2010,15:11)Does the Father become a stronger God with the Son begotten, yes I would think so.Kathi How can that which is infinite become more infinite? It seems to me that your explanation above means the Father could not be fully God unless he brought birth to a Son through…[Read more]

Keith,I see 'come into existence,' begin to be, and receive existence. Those identify with the term 'begotten.' What I do not see in 'ginomai' is 'of its kind.' Do you see 'of its kind?'Quote Here is the root words that make Monogenes…”Monos”alone (without a companion), forsaken, destitute of help, alone, only, merely”ginomai”1) to become,…[Read more]

Mark,So how is it that the Word that is God and became flesh says that He did not send Himself? And prays to the Father 'in Heaven?' John 8:4242 Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love Me, for I proceeded forth and have come from God, for I have not even come on My own initiative, but He sent Me. NASU

Hi Mark,Yes I know and believe that the Word was God but was the Word also with God and from God? Was God with God, two different persons that were both God?

Irene,This is not about saying the Apostle's Creed in church necessarily, it is more about whether it is scriptural. You should understand the difference of capital and small letters. You preach that Lord and lord are different and even God and god indicate a difference but you do not acknowledge that here with Catholic and catholic. You say…[Read more]

Quote (mikeangel @ Nov. 13 2010,20:49)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 14 2010,09:28)mikeangel,Do you worship Jesus? Is He literally an only Son of God?  How do you think the Father and Son and Holy Spirit are one?Thanks,KathiYes kathi, I worship Jesus. He was and is the word made flesh. He literally was and is the only human begotten by the sprit of God,…[Read more]

So Irene, Is the OT Catholic also? What about the NT? The vast array of non-Catholic churches use the OT and the NT, is the Bible for all universal churches or just for the Catholics, should we discard the Bible, Irene? Should we discard the truths that are written in the Apostle's Creed because the Catholics believe it? See what you are…[Read more]

Irene,There is a difference with capitalizing the 'C' in Catholic and not capitalizing the 'c' in catholic. You don't seem to want to recognize that. The capital 'Catholic' indicates the Roman Catholic church, the 'catholic' church indicates the universal church. I suppose if you have only known it in a Catholic church, maybe they capitalized…[Read more]

Quote (Baker @ Nov. 13 2010,20:00)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 14 2010,08:24)Hi All,I find it all “scriptural”, knowing that “catholic” simply meant “universal”.  It still does, but today it doesn't really represent the universal Church of God, but a sect.I would only take issue with #3.  The words they use are “scriptural”, but the meaning is lost i…[Read more]

Hi Mike,Maybe this can be a creed we can all agree on then and bring us some unity here in the 'Believer's' section.

mikeangel,Do you worship Jesus? Is He literally an only Son of God? How do you think the Father and Son and Holy Spirit are one?Thanks,Kathi

theodorej,I was wondering if these 2 Psalms 47 and 48 were Messianic, I will have to look further but I saw a commentary indicating that they are talking about Jesus.Psalm 47God the King of the Earth.For the choir director. A Psalm of the sons of Korah. 1O (A)clap your hands, all peoples; (B)Shout to God with the voice of joy. 2For…[Read more]

Hi Mike,Thanks for your opinion. I agree, I also think it is all scriptural with the idea of 'universal.' I would like to know what Gene and Kerwin think about it. What Christian denomination would disagree with this that you are aware of?

theodorej,I agree with your statement on Messianic Jewery. I believe the feasts and Messianic prophecies reveal a lot but it still takes eyes to see and ears to hear when studying them. What is your background…Trinitarian? I would like to post something in the worship thread and get your opinion on it.Thanks!

Here is something about the Greek word translated as Catholic:The word Catholic is derived from the Greek adjective καθολικός (katholikos), meaning “universal”. In the context of Christian ecclesiology, it has a rich history and several usages.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholichttp://www.google.com/search?….CBsQkAEDerived from a Greek word meaning…[Read more]

Thanks William and Theodorej for responding. I was told that 'holy catholic church' didn't mean The Catholics per say but the Christian church in general.Theodorej, which points are not true in your opinion?

Quote (theodorej @ Nov. 12 2010,14:25)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 13 2010,04:11)Quote (theodorej @ Nov. 12 2010,07:26)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 09 2010,14:40)I need to share this radio broadcast about a conservative Christian's testimony regarding God showing him hell…http://www.sidroth.org/site….rl=1121Greetings Lightenup……The messianic message…[Read more]