Pierre,Thanks for your info but still you provide no scripture to say that God will punish those who worship Jesus as His Son and no prophecies about it either. You do realize that you are not able to find even one.You said:1Ki 11:6 So Solomon did evil in the eyes of the LORD? he did not follow the LORD completely, as David his father had done. Da…[Read more]

I don't think that I have posted on this thread yet, but the thought came to me last night and I had remembered reading somebody's writings on this that seemed really smart to me, probably one of the church father's but the answer to the question is obvious.Here is your answer..YES, spirits dwell in bodies.Everyone here has a spirit and everyone…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Nov. 16 2010,15:34)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 08 2010,16:30)Quote (david @ Nov. 02 2010,02:05)Quote AND IN THE MIDDLE OF ALL OF THIS HE SAYS “I AND THE FATHER ARE ONE”.If another person who knows better, misapplies this scripture again, my head is going to explode.David,Don't explode, seek to understand:John 5:18 For this…[Read more]

Quote (theodorej @ Nov. 16 2010,15:48)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 17 2010,07:24)Ted,What you call 'apparition' the early church father's called a theophany.Theophany: an appearance of God in visible form, temporary and not necessarily material. Such an appearance is to be contrasted with the Incarnation, in which there was a permanent union between…[Read more]

Mike or Pierre,Show me one scripture where someone worshipped Jesus and God, the Father got mad at them and punished them. Show me one prophecy where this was to happen and make sure that Jesus/the Son of God/the Messiah is specifically identified. Or, stop all the hot air and accusations.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 16 2010,22:25)Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 17 2010,14:15)Mike what intense feelings Kathi has, not to want to obey Christ and God s words.i is amazing it is an obsession,i wander what make her do that??it is not the truth that s for sure, God can not go against is own words.PierreI know Pierre.  And she thinks she is serving…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 16 2010,21:45)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 16 2010,16:46)There are vast examples of the Messiah receiving worshipThere are no instances in the whole of scripture where Jesus is worshipped.mikeMike,Every knee will bow and every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord…that is religious proskuneo-ing no matter how you…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 16 2010,21:40)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 16 2010,13:49)Mike,You confuse civil worship with religious worship, what was done to Jesus was religious worship.So now you're just going to make up words?  Did God distinguish between “civil worship” and “religious worship”?God said to only worship Him.'Jesus said to only worship…[Read more]

Ted,What you call 'apparition' the early church father's called a theophany.Theophany: an appearance of God in visible form, temporary and not necessarily material. Such an appearance is to be contrasted with the Incarnation, in which there was a permanent union between God and complete manhood (body, soul , and spirit) (Cross, The Oxford…[Read more]

Hi Ted,You said:Greetings Kathi…..I would think when you examine the Psalms you must keep in mind that Davids' focus was on the Eternal…The God of Abraham….Jesus hails from the house David…. Do you think that the Jehovah that talked with Abraham was the Word of God in form of a man? Genesis 18

Quote (Baker @ Nov. 16 2010,08:06)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 16 2010,16:46)Welcome Joanna.Jesus told us to worship the Father.  It is who we have religious faith in as our Lord that should get our worship.  The Father is Lord, Jesus is Lord, not two from different essences but the same essence.  Let your faith lead you in how you respond and un…[Read more]

Hi theodorej,Is it all right with you if I call you Ted? Thanks for filling me in…I guess that I don't have to read your comments with a British accent anymore I really enjoy knowing more about people here on HN. Do you have children? Good for you to be married for 36 years and good for you to continue looking for a church. What is your…[Read more]

Welcome Joanna.Jesus told us to worship the Father. It is who we have religious faith in as our Lord that should get our worship. The Father is Lord, Jesus is Lord, not two from different essences but the same essence. Let your faith lead you in how you respond and understand the idea of worship.No one has to tell people to worship money…it…[Read more]

Pierre,I see how both are involved in creation. You said that you can see Jesus as your Lord, is that in a religious sense or civil sense?Do you believe in Jesus as your Lord?Was He involved in creating the world?Is Jesus your Master?Have you seen the list of occurrences where Jesus receives worship/bowing down that I collected a while back, all…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 15 2010,22:49)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 16 2010,21:40)Marty and Pierre,Good verses Marty!  However there are several on here that think that if the word means kneeling down in front of, or bowing dow to, or doing obeisance then that would be ok to do to other gods.  No matter how you translate it, when it is an act of r…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 15 2010,22:38)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 16 2010,20:56)Also Mike,The Bible tells us not to 'bow down' to any graven image or idol or other gods.  You say that Jesus is a mighty god and you agree that He was bowed down to after being supernatural yet He did not admonish anyone who did that so for you to say that it is clear…[Read more]

Marty and Pierre,Good verses Marty! However there are several on here that think that if the word means kneeling down in front of, or bowing dow to, or doing obeisance then that would be ok to do to other gods. No matter how you translate it, when it is an act of religious worship as opposed to civil worship you may not do this to other…[Read more]

Also Mike,The Bible tells us not to 'bow down' to any graven image or idol or other gods. You say that Jesus is a mighty god and you agree that He was bowed down to after being supernatural yet He did not admonish anyone who did that so for you to say that it is clear that we worship no one but the Father is it not also clear that we are not to…[Read more]

Mike,You confuse civil worship with religious worship, what was done to Jesus was religious worship.

Sorry Pierre, I forgot about your question but I might point out that while you 'wonder' about my answer, your last post was criticizing that I was wondering about someone else's answer. Isn't that kind hypocritical…just sayin' is all.You asked what type of image is Christ. He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation,…[Read more]