Quote (theodorej @ Nov. 22 2010,13:11)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 22 2010,08:02)Quote (JustAskin @ Nov. 21 2010,08:48)LU,Was 'Jesus' called 'the Angel of God' in the Old Testament?Did Jesus deliver the Word of God?Did God call Jesus, 'His Servant'?JA,Yes I believe that He was called the Angel of God in the OT but I don't believe that He was ever of…[Read more]

Shimmer,This guy has many facts and is very knowledgeable, he has far more knowledge on this matter than I do that's for sure!You might learn something from watching the video or reading through the pdf. It doesn't matter to me if you do though. Someone may be interested enough to learn something. It is loaded with research!I wouldn't put it…[Read more]

Quote (mikeangel @ Nov. 21 2010,06:10)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 21 2010,14:38)Mike,you said:Quote Why do you insist that it means “God-Worship” in each and every reference to Jesus? Let me refine your question to “Why do you insist that it means 'religious worship' in several references to Jesus?It is like you gloss right over the term I…[Read more]

Nephilim:In the Hebrew it comes from the word, “nephal.” It means “the fallen ones” and that’sthe term used, don’t confuse that with the fallen angels. The fallen angels, according to Genesis6, cohabitated with human women to produce a hybrid offspring that are called, in the Hebrew,“the Nephilim.” In the Septuagint version of the Old Testament,…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Nov. 21 2010,15:12)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 21 2010,23:53)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Nov. 22 2010,05:42)If God is not a God of confusion, than How is it that it has comes to defining an ancient language to determine whom to Worship,Wouldnt it be better to ask him, not based on our biaseness?Hi Dennison,I hope things are better…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 21 2010,15:11)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 22 2010,13:53)Quote (mikeangel @ Nov. 21 2010,06:17)IMO the devil has really done a good job of screwing things up when I actually have people telling me it's wrong to worship Jesus.Yes Mark,He must increase and we must decrease…that was from John the Baptist.KathiWE” are not John…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Nov. 21 2010,08:48)LU,Was 'Jesus' called 'the Angel of God' in the Old Testament?Did Jesus deliver the Word of God?Did God call Jesus, 'His Servant'?JA,Yes I believe that He was called the Angel of God in the OT but I don't believe that He was ever of the angelic nature and therefore not one of the angel kind. Angels were…[Read more]

JA,you ask so many questions, let's start here:Quote Where, for instance, does it say that Jesus was deity?The literal Son of God with God's own nature would be deity.He is called:Mighty God, everlasting Father.The word was God. John 1:1The only begotten God. John 1:18My Lord and my God…Thomas called Him that.The EXACT representation of God's…[Read more]

Quote (mikeangel @ Nov. 21 2010,06:17)IMO the devil has really done a good job of screwing things up when I actually have people telling me it's wrong to worship Jesus.Yes Mark,He must increase and we must decrease…that was from John the Baptist.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 21 2010,13:38)No Kathi,Please DON'T refine my question.  There is worship, and then there is doing obeisance.  There is no such thing as “civil worship”.  What you're calling “civil worship” is “doing obeisance” and is not “worship” at all.When the man bowed to King David, he was not performing “civil worship” Kathi, fo…[Read more]

Quote (mikeangel @ Nov. 17 2010,06:01)I agree with it.. IMO it was made because of all the twist and turns and intrepretations coming from people distorting the basic facts stated. Not only do I agree with it, I think it was a smart thing for the church to do.I agree Mark,Going for unity in the faith and the knowledge of the fullness of the Son of…[Read more]

Here is a song that I think we could all feel good about singing!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFz503Pqg38Eph 4:10-1710 He who descended is Himself also He who ascended far above all the heavens, so that He might fill all things.) 11 And He gave some as apostles, and some as prophets, and some as evangelists, and some as pastors and teachers, 12…[Read more]

Mike,you said:Quote Why do you insist that it means “God-Worship” in each and every reference to Jesus? Let me refine your question to “Why do you insist that it means 'religious worship' in several references to Jesus?It is like you gloss right over the term I use…'religious worship' vs. 'civil worship.'  I believe that the people gave Jesus…[Read more]

Pierre,I can't understand what you wrote, can you rewrite it please?

Quote (mikeangel @ Nov. 20 2010,13:54)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 21 2010,05:19)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 19 2010,11:29)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 18 2010,17:39)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 19 2010,07:31)true but He tells Peter to feed HIS sheep, He doesn't say to feed His Father's sheep but His sheep.Does Jesus refer to the ones that his God has given him…[Read more]

Mike said about the NWT's tranlation of proskuneo:Quote What I was pointing out is that the word “proskuneo” CAN mean either the worship due God OR simply a showing of reverence and honor to others.What you need to realize is that proskuneo can mean either religious worship or civil worship. Religious reverence and honor to 'a god' would violate…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 20 2010,13:15)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 21 2010,04:41)For indeed Jews  ask for signs and Greeks search for wisdom; 23 but we preach Christ crucified, to Jews a stumbling block and to Gentiles foolishness,  24 but to those who are the  called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God. 25 Because th…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 20 2010,12:53)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 21 2010,11:41)Pierre,But Moses was never said to have existed in the beginning and to have caused all things into being and all before coming in the flesh.  There is little comparison between the Son as 'god' and Moses as 'a god.'  The Son did all through the power of God because He i…[Read more]

Pierre,But Moses was never said to have existed in the beginning and to have caused all things into being and all before coming in the flesh. There is little comparison between the Son as 'god' and Moses as 'a god.' The Son did all through the power of God because He is the power of God, Moses was not.For indeed Jews ask for signs and Greeks…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 20 2010,02:05)Lightenup,It certainly looks like the experts debate over what the words of Psalms 110:3 are I would at most be one more voice is a bable of voices.  Each of us would most likely be lead to select those translation which best fit what we already believe.  Verses such as this because of the debate they cause are n…[Read more]