JA,Sometimes I listen to near death experiences and from what they say that experience them is that they see themselves as having bodies but they are somewhat different. For instance they can take their arm and it can go through their bodies. I picture something like a hologram.

Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 29 2010,01:48)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 30 2010,00:14)Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 28 2010,20:06)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 29 2010,15:13)Pierre,Interesting question.  We will be perfect and will always do what the Father and Son ask.Gal 5:18-2318 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the Law. 19 Now the deeds of the…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 28 2010,20:50)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 29 2010,06:19)His body was resurrected and the spirit was returned to it and the resurrected body is what was granted immortality.  The pre-existing eternal essence of Christ did not die.  The human essence of Christ died.Hi Kathi,All I know is that Jesus died the same way other men d…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 28 2010,20:06)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 29 2010,15:13)Pierre,Interesting question.  We will be perfect and will always do what the Father and Son ask.Gal 5:18-2318 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the Law. 19 Now the deeds of the flesh are evident, which are: immorality, impurity, sensuality, 20 idolatry,…[Read more]

Pierre,Interesting question. We will be perfect and will always do what the Father and Son ask.Gal 5:18-2318 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the Law. 19 Now the deeds of the flesh are evident, which are: immorality, impurity, sensuality, 20 idolatry, sorcery, enmities, strife, jealousy, outbursts of anger, disputes,…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 27 2010,18:31)Kathi:Quote Why must the Son be a result of creation and not the result of being begotten by God as in an offspring with the eternal essence of His Father?Jesus IS the begotten Son of God Kathi.  And like I've said many times, when I begot my son, with the help of God I CREATED a new life where there was…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 27 2010,18:31)Kathi:Quote Why are you not understanding that it is entirely possible that the word in Rev 3:14 is ruler and not beginning?I do admit that it could mean either in Rev 3:14.  I understand John to be saying “beginning” in that verse though.  It is my personal preference in that verse, and lines up perfectly w…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Nov. 24 2010,20:14)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 25 2010,07:09)Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 24 2010,01:50)Quote (shimmer @ Nov. 24 2010,14:03)I used to.  Untill you went against me. Mike, all this does is confuse you and your thinking, taking you away from what you know and what works for you. I learnt that.Hi Shimmer,You mean she's went against…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 26 2010,12:10)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 26 2010,13:51)Mike,When Jesus mentioned that about men being called gods He was making a comparison between men being called gods and Himself, the Only begotten god being called god.  His point was…how much more would the only begotten god, i.e. the Son of God, be called god if mere…[Read more]

Mike,You said in the 'was Jesus superior' thread to JA:Quote Arche does not have anything to do with “wicked” or “righteous” JA. It simply means “ruler”. So here's the question:https://www.heavennet.net/cgi-bin….;st=460And then you cannot seem to accept Rev 3:14 when the same word that you claim to mean 'ruler' is used, 'arche' you insist on…[Read more]

Mike,When Jesus mentioned that about men being called gods He was making a comparison between men being called gods and Himself, the Only begotten god being called god. His point was…how much more would the only begotten god, i.e. the Son of God, be called god if mere men are called that. That is the way I read it.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 25 2010,10:43)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 25 2010,13:51)Does the only begotten god pray to your God?Does the only begotten god sit at the right hand of God?Is the only begotten god the exact representation of God's nature?Is the only begotten god the image of God?Does the begotten god have a kingdom with God in heaven?Do you…[Read more]

Does the only begotten god pray to your God?Does the only begotten god sit at the right hand of God?Is the only begotten god the exact representation of God's nature?Is the only begotten god the image of God?Does the begotten god have a kingdom with God in heaven?Do you offer obeisance to the begotten god?Do you offer obeisance to God?Please…[Read more]

Mike,So your God begat a Son who is a begotten god, correct?

That was funny Marty!  Keith's comment about vegetarians made me think about something that happened to me.  A few years ago I had just finished carving and painting a carousel animal for the city zoo carousel.  I carved a white tailed buck that had real antlers.  When it came time to open the carousel for a private reception for the sponsors, my…[Read more]

Thanks Marty and Shimmer for your help!

Mike,Does your God have a begotten god?

JA,you said:Quote Where, for instance, does it say that Jesus was deity?I said:The literal Son of God with God's own nature would be deity.He is called:Mighty God, everlasting Father.The word was God. John 1:1The only begotten God. John 1:18My Lord and my God…Thomas called Him that.The EXACT representation of God's nature.The form of God. So…wh…[Read more]

Shimmer I hear what you are saying but it doesn't always take two. One can be the perpetrator and the other keeps silent after trying to settle it and it doesn't work. It only takes one to throw stones as in the Pharisees with Jesus. He wasn't at fault and had no need to apologize. Do you see this? I am perfectly willing to make peace but…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 24 2010,01:50)Quote (shimmer @ Nov. 24 2010,14:03)I used to.  Untill you went against me. Mike, all this does is confuse you and your thinking, taking you away from what you know and what works for you. I learnt that.Hi Shimmer,You mean she's went against you too?God blessEd J (Joshua 22:34)http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgHi…[Read more]