Hi guys!I just wanted to point out that if the word was 'a' God/god, John, merely 17 verses later, gives us the article 'the' when he writes that Jesus is THE only begotten God/god. Just read John 1:1 with the understanding that the word was THE only begotten God/god or A only begotten God/god. It doesn't matter if it is 'the' or 'a' since it…[Read more]

Karmarie,I don't care to debate the point either God bless you in your pursuit of truth.To all,I may start shopping around for another site where people don't get away with what they do here (no names). Does anyone know of a good Christian site that doesn't put up with abusive posts or distorting people's quotes, etc? Somewhere that rules mean…[Read more]

Hi Karmarie,What do you think would happen to JA on the other forum where you spend time? Didn't you mention that he would be long gone? I thought that is what you said…if not, sorry…maybe I misunderstood. If that is what you said, why would you think he would be long gone?Peace!

Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 05 2011,21:03)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 05 2011,01:03)Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 05 2011,10:17)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 04 2011,23:52)Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 05 2011,09:50)Istari,The point is the Father can be called 'Father' before the Son is actually begotten/brought forth.In other Words,God wasn't always “the father”…[Read more]

Pierre,Put it this way…I believe that we are to believe in the Father and the Son, follow them, seek them, fellowship with them, honor and glorify them. Do you have a problem with that?

Irene,He told us in a clever way.Go to this page: https://www.heavennet.net/cgi-bin….;st=140scroll down to the 4th post down and LEFT click on the “Hi smimmer” link then observe the name of the one who posted the comment.It's deceitful but clever!

I know Pierre, I'm not sure why you commented like that.

Quote (Baker @ Jan. 07 2011,07:47)Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 07 2011,16:17)Irene,Jesus is not just the High Priest/Mediator, He is also the one on the throne that we bow to.  He is on the throne of His Father at the right hand of the Father, seated with Him.  We bow to the Son as God the Son, we bow to the Father as God the Father and in that way w…[Read more]

Irene,Istari is JA.

Irene,Jesus is not just the High Priest/Mediator, He is also the one on the throne that we bow to. He is on the throne of His Father at the right hand of the Father, seated with Him. We bow to the Son as God the Son, we bow to the Father as God the Father and in that way we recognize the difference.Jesus has to be the High Priest/Mediator to…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 06 2011,11:21)Lightenup……….Why does it say “and the Kingdom will we Given to the Saints of the Most High and they shall poses it forever” then? Our bodies are the temple of the most high God live vicariously in and through all his creation and that include Jesus and Us,  and all that has life in it. It was not…[Read more]

Mike,Jesus is both priest/mediator and king at the same time on the highest throne possible. What does it mean to you to be sitting on the highest throne possible for ever?Jesus as priest is like none other. He is a priest in a temple not made with hands for one thing, and He is not only the High Priest forever but also the King ruler in the…[Read more]

Mike,Those who overcome sit on the Son of God's throne, they are sons of God and they have a part in the kingdom of God and have some authority, but they don't sit on the Father's throne. Does satan sit on any throne forever, or any so-called gods? Is there any higher throne than the one that the Father sits on that Jesus doesn't also sit on?…[Read more]

Istari,You seem to get hung up on that the Father has to be a woman to have a literal son within Him and I think that God can have a literal Son within Him just by being God and does not have to be man or woman…those earthly ideas are limiting you here. So, we disagree. You don't believe in a literal Son of God but a person that earned that…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 06 2011,20:20)Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 05 2011,16:01)Mike,No one else is seated on the “Father's throne” but the Father and the Son, so that would have been a better question from me.Do you know of any verse that one sits on the Father's throne in the temple of the Lord that is not deity?Hi Kathi,I forgot about this thread…[Read more]

Please Istari, Don't talk to people like you just did to Irene and recently to Kerwin, and others. Are you trying to get tiles again? Maybe you can go into your wizard closet and come up with a Godly and loving character to play. Please consider your words because we will all be held accountable for our own words.

Istari,I responded to you in a more appropriate thread if you care to have a look:https://www.heavennet.net/cgi-bin….y280836

A message to Istari, (JA) in response to something he said to me in the “Do Spirits have Bodies” thread.Istari,I never said God was a woman. In fact I said God was neither a man or a woman. That was a false conclusion. My point was to demonstrate that a parent is a parent even while the child is inside the mom. They do not just become a parent…[Read more]

Mark and WJ,I think the little happy banana has his thumb out giving an “I love you” sign language sign. When the thumb is over the third and fourth fingers that are folded, that is the devil's horn sign…as far as I know. So…the happy, little banana is a loving, little, happy banana

Quote (Istari @ Jan. 05 2011,14:22)Some one asked me before to SHAKE HANDS with my fellows (STUDENTS) — NO way – How can I SHAKE Hands with the one misleading himself into delusions.Yet you read the Scriptures and it says “If you try to bring the brother to realisation, three time, and he refuses, do not go to him a fourth time but put him away…[Read more]