Please Istari, Don't talk to people like you just did to Irene and recently to Kerwin, and others. Are you trying to get tiles again? Maybe you can go into your wizard closet and come up with a Godly and loving character to play. Please consider your words because we will all be held accountable for our own words.

Istari,I responded to you in a more appropriate thread if you care to have a look:https://www.heavennet.net/cgi-bin….y280836

A message to Istari, (JA) in response to something he said to me in the “Do Spirits have Bodies” thread.Istari,I never said God was a woman. In fact I said God was neither a man or a woman. That was a false conclusion. My point was to demonstrate that a parent is a parent even while the child is inside the mom. They do not just become a parent…[Read more]

Mark and WJ,I think the little happy banana has his thumb out giving an “I love you” sign language sign. When the thumb is over the third and fourth fingers that are folded, that is the devil's horn sign…as far as I know. So…the happy, little banana is a loving, little, happy banana

Quote (Istari @ Jan. 05 2011,14:22)Some one asked me before to SHAKE HANDS with my fellows (STUDENTS) — NO way – How can I SHAKE Hands with the one misleading himself into delusions.Yet you read the Scriptures and it says “If you try to bring the brother to realisation, three time, and he refuses, do not go to him a fourth time but put him away…[Read more]

I would like to see Theodore on the list also, he has experience with boardroom power tactics…and I would have liked to vote for more than one. I see many that might do well.Maybe there should be a three month trial period for anyone considering the position with the freedom of not continuing and/or maybe a rotation where you agree to moderate…[Read more]

Karmarie,Thanks for your recommendation. I think we both have moderating experience with raising 10 kids between us, lol. We should be able to run a small company after that. I want to be open to what the Lord has for me and I know t8 needs help. I think that the men are more responsive to men keeping them in line. I do better with children…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 05 2011,01:03)Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 05 2011,10:17)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 04 2011,23:52)Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 05 2011,09:50)Istari,The point is the Father can be called 'Father' before the Son is actually begotten/brought forth.In other Words,God wasn't always “the father” its not his eteranl identity nor part…[Read more]

Hi Istari,I was reading some of your responses from our conversation last night and one thing that I would like to say is that it is ok to disagree. I have presented the best word picture that I have ever had on the subject. You mentioned that I must not try to explain spiritual things in earthly ways and I also disagree with that. Jesus did it…[Read more]

Goodnight for now Istari. It's been nice discussing with you. Something else to think about…to be the exact representation of God's nature, one would have to have an always existent nature.Catch ya later!

Istari,There is no unbegotten God but Him, the Father. He begat the Son that always existed within Him sometime before creation and the Firstborn created all things in heaven and on earth.John 3:16″For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.17″For God did…[Read more]

Quote (Istari @ Jan. 05 2011,00:16)Kathi,no, the SON COULD NOT have ALWAYS EXISTED – why are you saying this….Where do you get any evidence to say a SON EXIST BEFORE BEING CREATED as a SON….this is PURELY ILLOGICAL.Why would a Son exist – then he would not be a SON He would be a GOD…see you turn logic against itself.If the Son ALWAYS EXISTED…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 04 2011,23:52)Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 05 2011,09:50)Istari,The point is the Father can be called 'Father' before the Son is actually begotten/brought forth.In other Words,God wasn't always “the father” its not his eteranl identity nor part of it until that role was fulfilled.Its like haveing scuba gear to potentialy go…[Read more]

Quote (Istari @ Jan. 04 2011,23:56)Kathi – NO, the FATHER is NOT CALLED FATHER until he HAS a SON…(Ah, so that's why your were trying to FORCE the issue of the MOTHER – ah, I see, nice try – NO, Kathi, it doesn't work…)Istari,you said:NO, the FATHER is NOT CALLED FATHER until he HAS a SON…I agree but if the Son always existed before being…[Read more]

Karmarie,Absolutely!

Mike,No one else is seated on the “Father's throne” but the Father and the Son, so that would have been a better question from me.Do you know of any verse that one sits on the Father's throne in the temple of the Lord that is not deity?

Karmarie is right…nice and God given. Worthwhile to pursue!Mike's last comment shows that he is trying…and so does Istari's last comment.

Istari,The point is the Father can be called 'Father' before the Son is actually begotten/brought forth.

Thanks Kerwin, I'm sure.

Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 04 2011,22:04)Istari,I agree with you that the trinity doctrine seems to indicate a triune God encompassing the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.  That has not set well with me either.In my recent post to you, I didn't mean to indicate that the Son was a 'thought' of the Father's before He was begotten.  I will give y…[Read more]