This is a lot of hoop la for not really making a difference. The word was an only begotten God…the word was the only begotten God…the word was God, the only begotten one. All three ways are my paraphrase written in light of v. 18 to give an understanding why the articles aren't what's important here, imo. John 1:18 is a complimentary verse to…[Read more]

Hello back to you Keith…nice to see you!Blessings, Kathi

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 21 2011,18:38)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 20 2011,22:56)My conclusion is that it may be grammatically ok to consider an 'a' and a small 'g,' but in light of the rest of the book and how John writes, contextually it would be incorrect.Hi Kathi,Thanks for your input.  I'm aching to discuss the CONTEXTUAL possibilities, and blow…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Mar. 21 2011,02:09)Hi Kathi!!!I MIss you!!! i was thinking about you the other day and how we needed you back and guess what here you are!!!Miss you bunch lady!Welcome backHi Dennison,It's is nice to be missed…thank you for thinkin' me back here Bless ya, Kathi

Hi Mike,It is good to discuss scripture with you again…I missed you too!You asked my opinion on whether or not it was grammatically possible for John 1:1c to say 'a god.' Well, my UN-expert opinion is that whether you translate it with an 'a' or a 'the' or a small 'g' or capital 'G' can reflect a bias. I don't think that the NWT is consistent…[Read more]

Hi guys!I just wanted to point out that if the word was 'a' God/god, John, merely 17 verses later, gives us the article 'the' when he writes that Jesus is THE only begotten God/god. Just read John 1:1 with the understanding that the word was THE only begotten God/god or A only begotten God/god. It doesn't matter if it is 'the' or 'a' since it…[Read more]

Karmarie,I don't care to debate the point either God bless you in your pursuit of truth.To all,I may start shopping around for another site where people don't get away with what they do here (no names). Does anyone know of a good Christian site that doesn't put up with abusive posts or distorting people's quotes, etc? Somewhere that rules mean…[Read more]

Hi Karmarie,What do you think would happen to JA on the other forum where you spend time? Didn't you mention that he would be long gone? I thought that is what you said…if not, sorry…maybe I misunderstood. If that is what you said, why would you think he would be long gone?Peace!

Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 05 2011,21:03)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 05 2011,01:03)Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 05 2011,10:17)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 04 2011,23:52)Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 05 2011,09:50)Istari,The point is the Father can be called 'Father' before the Son is actually begotten/brought forth.In other Words,God wasn't always “the father”…[Read more]

Pierre,Put it this way…I believe that we are to believe in the Father and the Son, follow them, seek them, fellowship with them, honor and glorify them. Do you have a problem with that?

Irene,He told us in a clever way.Go to this page: https://www.heavennet.net/cgi-bin….;st=140scroll down to the 4th post down and LEFT click on the “Hi smimmer” link then observe the name of the one who posted the comment.It's deceitful but clever!

I know Pierre, I'm not sure why you commented like that.

Quote (Baker @ Jan. 07 2011,07:47)Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 07 2011,16:17)Irene,Jesus is not just the High Priest/Mediator, He is also the one on the throne that we bow to.  He is on the throne of His Father at the right hand of the Father, seated with Him.  We bow to the Son as God the Son, we bow to the Father as God the Father and in that way w…[Read more]

Irene,Istari is JA.

Irene,Jesus is not just the High Priest/Mediator, He is also the one on the throne that we bow to. He is on the throne of His Father at the right hand of the Father, seated with Him. We bow to the Son as God the Son, we bow to the Father as God the Father and in that way we recognize the difference.Jesus has to be the High Priest/Mediator to…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 06 2011,11:21)Lightenup……….Why does it say “and the Kingdom will we Given to the Saints of the Most High and they shall poses it forever” then? Our bodies are the temple of the most high God live vicariously in and through all his creation and that include Jesus and Us,  and all that has life in it. It was not…[Read more]

Mike,Jesus is both priest/mediator and king at the same time on the highest throne possible. What does it mean to you to be sitting on the highest throne possible for ever?Jesus as priest is like none other. He is a priest in a temple not made with hands for one thing, and He is not only the High Priest forever but also the King ruler in the…[Read more]

Mike,Those who overcome sit on the Son of God's throne, they are sons of God and they have a part in the kingdom of God and have some authority, but they don't sit on the Father's throne. Does satan sit on any throne forever, or any so-called gods? Is there any higher throne than the one that the Father sits on that Jesus doesn't also sit on?…[Read more]

Istari,You seem to get hung up on that the Father has to be a woman to have a literal son within Him and I think that God can have a literal Son within Him just by being God and does not have to be man or woman…those earthly ideas are limiting you here. So, we disagree. You don't believe in a literal Son of God but a person that earned that…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 06 2011,20:20)Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 05 2011,16:01)Mike,No one else is seated on the “Father's throne” but the Father and the Son, so that would have been a better question from me.Do you know of any verse that one sits on the Father's throne in the temple of the Lord that is not deity?Hi Kathi,I forgot about this thread…[Read more]