Hi Ted, Pierre, Mike, and Kerwin…The Jewish Targums can clear up whether the Jews believed the Lord God referred to in OT was the Father or the 'Word of the Lord' who those in the NT times find out is the Son.  The Targums are the translations of the Hebrew Bible into Aramaic.  They are written with the Jewish understanding inserted into the t…[Read more]

More about the Father and Jesus being one…“I and the Father are one.”Gill's Exposition of the Entire BibleI and my Father are one. Not in person, for the Father must be a distinct person from the Son, and the Son a distinct person from the Father; and which is further manifest, from the use of the verb plural, “I and my Father”, “we are one”;…[Read more]

David,I think you get angry for a lack of understanding. Once again, I am not speaking of a trinity as in the trinity doctrine but the eternal deity of the Son with the Father.you said:Quote This argument makes me so very angry.  I do understand why it is misused.  But I have to feel that everyone who uses it feels bad about themselves for d…[Read more]

David,you said on your posts on this page:Quote I thought there were 3? Why do we so often forget the third? Hardly even mentioned as part of the trinity in comparison to how often these 2 are. I am glad that you can see the two. I do not understand 'three persons' nor do I speak of a trinity doctrine. I do believe the deity of an eternal…[Read more]

Hi Marty,you said:Quote And so, yes he existed in the heart of the Father from the beginning, but not as a sentient person.This is a very big difference between you and many Christians. When you view the scriptures through an eternally sentient person you find a completely different 'Son' than the way you have expressed. An eternally sentient…[Read more]

Hi Happyman, I'm glad you liked that performance with Michael W. Smith. Irene, so sorry you are struggling. You both might like this song. I went to see this artist tonight at a benefit concert for the tornado victims nearby. His name is Josh Turner and he sings clean country songs. My dear boyfriend (husband of almost 30 years) surprised my…[Read more]

Hi Ted,We can't love like we are supposed to so we ask God to love through us and we act by faith on that. He loves through us according to what the person needs for their benefit in the long run. He promises to work everything out for good for those who love the Lord.Blessings,Kathi

True Keith and even as the creator He was Lord of lords!Thanks,Kathi

Hi Mike,Quote Your last post is exactly the reason I halted all of our debates and discussions. Keith, your arguments are much like if I said, “I like Kathi”, and you are a little kid that keeps taunting me saying, “You said you LIKE her! You said you LIKE her! Mike and Kathi, sitting in a tree…………….”Looks like your comment and my…[Read more]

Shimmer,Here is a true story about loving neighbors as yourself. I have a neighbor on the left side of me with a very friendly, kind dog and I have a neighbor on the right of me with a very mean spirited dog. The mean spirited dog attacked and bit my son who was out jogging in the neighborhood about 8 days ago. Out of love for the neighbor, the…[Read more]

That is good that you trust your Bible Shimmer, almost every word in my last post was from it, btw.

Here is a song by Michael W. Smith about Jesus:You are HolyYou are holy (You are holy)You are mighty (You are mighty)You are worthy (You are worthy)Worthy of praise (Worthy of praise)And I will follow (I will follow)I will listen (I will listen)I will love you (I will love you)All of my days (All of my days)(Guys)I will sing toAnd worshipThe King…[Read more]

Hi Happyman,I love the line “I fixed it up with Jesus…”Thanks for putting those up.

To all,Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; and let them rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over the cattle and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.”One may be called Adam, an adam…and another called, um…Boris, another adam but both would…[Read more]

Mike,It is clear who we are to worship…the Lord our God who is the God of gods (the Father) and the Lord of lords (the Son).Luke 10:25And a lawyer stood up and put Him to the test, saying, “Teacher, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?” 26And He said to him, “What is written in the Law? How does it read to you?” 27And he answered, “YOU SHALL…[Read more]

Jesus was worshiped by many and still is as the Lord of lords and our mighty God, as the Son of God, with His Father who is God of gods.Jehovah our God is the God of gods AND the Lord of lords! We are to worship Jehovah our God…when we do in truth, we understand that there are two that are one as Jehovah our God. The Father and the Son…the…[Read more]

MIke,you said:Quote The former sounds like God is “restrained” to heaven and couldn't leave if He wanted to. But we know that God Himself walked in the Garden of Eden looking for Adam.So He apparently came to Earth at least once in scripture.That was God as the Son who walked in the Garden of Eden. No man has seen the Father. Good for you to…[Read more]

Quote (seekingtruth @ July 12 2011,04:48)Quote (Lightenup @ July 12 2011,08:11)Hi William,Thank you again for your explanation.  So, I think that you believe in the deity of Christ, right?  What do you think the Son was before He was manifested?  Was He a different person from the Father or even a person at all?Blessings,KathiHey Sis,Yes I do, al…[Read more]

Hi William,Thank you again for your explanation. So, I think that you believe in the deity of Christ, right? What do you think the Son was before He was manifested? Was He a different person from the Father or even a person at all?Blessings,Kathi

Ok Pierre, I haven't studied it enough to know for myself.Kathi