Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 16 2011,18:16)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 15 2011,21:36)Mike,He likely got that name when He was begotten before creation.  Not being given a name does not mean one does not exist.Perhaps not Kathi,But it DOES mean that “Jehovah” didn't ALWAYS consist of both the Father AND the Son, right?  Because at one time, the Son a…[Read more]

Mike,It is quite clear that Jehovah is not the maker of these 'gods.'Ezekial 16:17 You also took the fine jewelry I gave you, the jewelry made of my gold and silver, and youmade for yourself male idols and engaged in prostitution with themLeviticus 18:21 “'Do not give any of your children to be sacrificed to Molech, for you must not profane the…[Read more]

Mike,Quote There is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING in any scripture to suggest that Satan, or the gods of Egypt etc, were anything other than exactly what Jehovah Himself called them.Jehovah had more scriptures for me to put up.Deuteronomy 4:35 You were shown these things so that you might know that the Jehovah is God; besides him there is no…[Read more]

Thanks Irene, I appreciate it. I fixed the link.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 15 2011,20:04)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 14 2011,23:38)Mike,Quote Kathi, can you show me any SCRIPTURAL evidence, proof, or even an inkling that Satan is less than a real, bonafide god?'Seriously, Mike, you think that satan is a real bonafide god now?  Wow, I'll bet your 'bonafide god' is ready to give you and the peanut…[Read more]

Just being truthful and respectful, not holding on to bitterness, t8.

I am sending off my very dear 22 year old son today as he follows his dream of living abroad for a year.  He will be teaching English in South Korea and I will miss him very much although I am excited for him as well.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lk6gdX1WCd8&feature=relatedMay God bless and keep him and make His face shine upon him and grant him…[Read more]

Irene,You believe many wrong things and I leave you to your choosing. God knows and we can only pray for His mercy.Good bye to you too,Kathi

Quote (shimmer @ Aug. 16 2011,06:24)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 16 2011,16:34)21“Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter. 22“Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Yo…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 15 2011,20:04)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 14 2011,23:38)Mike,Quote Kathi, can you show me any SCRIPTURAL evidence, proof, or even an inkling that Satan is less than a real, bonafide god?'Seriously, Mike, you think that satan is a real bonafide god now?  Wow, I'll bet your 'bonafide god' is ready to give you and the peanut…[Read more]

Irene,Within a unity there can be one that is head over another, so what.? Eph 4 speaks of there being one Lord too but you seem to gloss over that. Psa 83:18 can be speaking about a unity and not necessarily about one person.Keep shaking your head that might actually help

Quote (shimmer @ Aug. 15 2011,20:25)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 16 2011,09:51)This Ezekial verse is for the group here that denies the deity AND divine Sonship of Christ, they are the ones that are guilty of 'paining the righteous' that believe in the deity of Christ.  They do not correct the ones that do not believe in the deity of Christ but…[Read more]

Mike,I analyzed the Greek of John 17:12 which says this:”While I was with them, I was keeping them in Your name which You have given Me; and I guarded them and not one of them perished but the son of perdition, so that the Scripture would be fulfilled.The pronoun 'which' is written in the singular neuter form and refers to the 'name' which is also…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 15 2011,19:49)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 15 2011,11:43)John 17:11“I am no longer in the world; and yet they themselves are in the world, and I come to You. Holy Father, keep them in Your name, the name which You have given Me, that they may be one even as We are. 12“While I was with them, I was keeping them in Your name whi…[Read more]

I have addressed them Irene, by merely the fact that they CAN refer to a unity and not just one person and that is how I see them and so do most Christians. You do not believe in the deity of Christ and can not see this unity. I can because I do believe in the deity of Christ. And yes, I do get the same questions from you over and over to which…[Read more]

Quote (Pastry @ Aug. 15 2011,21:17)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 16 2011,08:36)Irene,Isaiah 40:25“To whom will you compare me?  Or who is my equal?” says the Holy One.No one is equal to the compound unity called Jehovah.KathiNo Kathi! NO ONE IS EQUAL WITH JEHOVAH GOD…. HE ALONE HAS THE NAME JEHOVAH….Psa 83:18   That may know that thou, whose name…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 15 2011,21:50)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 15 2011,15:36)Irene,Isaiah 40:25“To whom will you compare me?  Or who is my equal?” says the Holy One.No one is equal to the compound unity called Jehovah.KathiKathi,The question was:  Which one of your two Gods said those words?The Son is the spokesperson for both of them. He is the &#039…[Read more]

Quote (Pastry @ Aug. 15 2011,19:42)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 16 2011,11:34)Quote (shimmer @ Aug. 15 2011,03:24)And as for your warning, please note that LU continued it by bumping the post above, and also took it into another thread. I expect to see her tiled!Hi Shimmer,I DID notice that and have already taken appropriate action.I'm out of it now.…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 15 2011,19:34)Quote (shimmer @ Aug. 15 2011,03:24)And as for your warning, please note that LU continued it by bumping the post above, and also took it into another thread. I expect to see her tiled!Hi Shimmer,I DID notice that and have already taken appropriate action.I'm out of it now.  If you three want to war, then…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ Aug. 15 2011,15:07)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 16 2011,05:19)James 1 2Consider it all joy, my brethren, when you encounter various trials, 3knowing that the testing of your faith produces endurance. 4And let endurance have its perfect result, so that you may be perfect and complete, lacking in nothing.      5But if any of you lacks wi…[Read more]