This space here is reserved to later compile the compound unity passages referring to the Heavenly Father, the Lord Jesus Christ, YHVH, God, the Almighty, etc.

Quote (t8 @ Aug. 29 2011,20:00)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 30 2011,04:05)Did you realize that Jesus was called Christ the Lord by the angels at the announcement by the angels to the shepherds when He was born?“Therefore let all Israel be assured of this: God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Christ.”He didn't make him YHWH did he?…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 28 2011,13:29)Quote Kathi seems to be saying that those who do not view Jesus as she does are going to Hell. Seems to?  Kathi never said those words.  Nope.I do believe in scriptures though and that is what convicts, not me.  If anyone is convicted by the scriptures that I post, then it is the scriptures that convict, no…[Read more]

Mike,Jesus was Lord always and appointed to be the Christ from eternity. His resurrection made it evident that He was both Lord and Christ. That is how God 'made' Him both Lord and Christ, which He always was (Lord) or was to be (Christ), by raising Him from the dead and making the fact evident. The resurrection made who He was evident to…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 28 2011,13:53)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 28 2011,12:37)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 28 2011,10:17)And consider this:  Just because the church in Thyatira put up with “that women Jezebel” does not mean the church in Pergamum did, right?Similarly, just because Jesus and his God are one in purpose does not mean that Jesus created…[Read more]

Mike,Elisabeth, the mother of John the Baptist, knew that her son was going to…:Luke 1:13But the angel said to him, “Do not be afraid, Zacharias, for your petition has been heard, and your wife Elizabeth will bear you a son, and you will give him the name John. 14“You will have joy and gladness, and many will rejoice at his birth. 15“For he wi…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 28 2011,13:57)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 28 2011,12:47)Do you, yourself believe that the title of king of kings is the same as Jesus being the King of kings?  If you do, then you have much to learn.Read you own words above, Kathi.  Translation:  If Mike thinks that Nebuchadnezzar being called the King of kings equates him to…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 29 2011,00:48)Hi Mike,And we beheld his(The Word's) glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father. (John 1:14)You can clearly see that Hebrews 7:28 says “The Word” maketh the Son; right?Hebrews 7:28 For the law maketh men high priests which have infirmity; but the word(TheSeed “IS” HolySpirit) of the oath, which was…[Read more]

Irene says:Quote He formed us out of the dust of the earth… He created Jesus from nothing… He created the earth and the Heavens from nothing…. That is what God did, He created all, including Jesus……Quote No I don't deny that He is the firstborn of all creation,Irene contradicts herself.  She says that God created Jesus from nothing but…[Read more]

Yes, heaven, please open it for a closing post. Thanks!Kathi

My answer to Mike,I can't answer for satan, nor will I entertain what was on his mind. Sorry but I am not going to discuss what he may or may not have thought. You can respect that or not. I already told you before you made this thread that I will not spend my time on this, I only answer now to give a record that I have responded to your post.Kathi

Heaven,How do you justify closing a debate that two people are having when one person asks another person several questions and then before they have a chance of answering and defending their position, you close the debate 'by request.' Shouldn't the person being asked the questions have an opportunity to answer those questions? Shouldn't both…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 28 2011,13:46)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 28 2011,12:12)that is what the passage is about, not to teach about the Godhead but to teach that Jesus was tempted by satan like the rest of us and yet remained without sin.That's quite a take on it, Kathi.    Because the way I understand it, Satan is quite convinced that Jesus is n…[Read more]

Mike,Nebuchadnezzar was (past tense) the king that held the most power over the kings of the earth and that is why he had that title.  Jesus is the King of kings of heaven and earth now and forever.  Nebuchadnezzar has nothing to do as a part the unity of God.  Are you going to use the argument that Jesus is called the Son of God and so all so…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 28 2011,10:17)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 27 2011,16:23)You will see that the subject for the middle of the verse is the 'world' and not the 'you.'  The 'world' is singular and agrees with the singular verb 'judge.'  The 'you' is written in the dative form and that means that it acts as the indirect object.These little p…[Read more]

Quote Kathi seems to be saying that those who do not view Jesus as she does are going to Hell. Seems to? Kathi never said those words. Nope.I do believe in scriptures though and that is what convicts, not me. If anyone is convicted by the scriptures that I post, then it is the scriptures that convict, not me.Christians all over the world…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 28 2011,09:22)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 27 2011,17:35)I have two persons that are both God yet united as one God unity.  The trinitarians have the same two persons that are both God yet united as one God unity also.  They also have the Holy Spirit as a third person, where I understand the Holy Spirit to be their i…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 28 2011,09:15)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 27 2011,17:00)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 26 2011,21:48)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 26 2011,20:34)Mike,Jesus taught that we are to worship Jehovah our God.  So do I.  The Father and He are one.  That would mean that we would worship both.Actually, Jesus told Satan, who was asking Jesus to wo…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 28 2011,09:11)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 27 2011,16:53)Mike,2 Thess 2:16-1716Now may our Lord Jesus Christ Himself and God our Father, who has loved us and given  us eternal comfort and good hope by grace, 17 comfort  and strengthen  your hearts in every good work and word. 1 Thess 3:11Now may our God and Father Himself an…[Read more]