If the eternal Light begets more Light, that begotten Light was always there, just not brought forth until the right time.Think about it.

Quote (Pastry @ Sep. 05 2011,20:22)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 06 2011,10:36)Irene,All my children are equally human natured as their father is.Likewise, Jesus is equally deity natured as His father is.Are your children less human natured than Georg or are they equal in this regards?Kathi!  Our Children are not equal to us, neither is Jesus, by His…[Read more]

t8 has addressed two posts to me, above, why if I am not to post here, where do I answer him? t8 do you have that answer?

Matthew 15:8“‘This people honors me with their lips, but their heart is far from me;Again we see an example of a singular demomstrative pronoun, 'this.' with a compound unity designated as 'people.'

Jeremiah 16:5 For thus said Jehovah: Do not enter the house of a mourning-feast, Nor go to lament nor bemoan for them, For I have removed My peace from this people, An affirmation of Jehovah, The kindness and the mercies.Here is an example of a singular demonstrative pronoun, 'this,' with a compound unity designated as 'people.'

Mike,Stay away from the compound unity thread if you are going to post a lie on purpose and mislead. You purposely posted a lie, Mike. That is against God. You admitted to lying in your post just now, but of course not in so many words. first you said:Quote These scriptures show that the Kingdom not only belongs to the Father and the Son, but…[Read more]

Mike,Yes.

Irene,I did not put any false accusations. When I accuse you of anything, it is true and I can prove it. This is what I wrote:Quote For starters, you believe that 'firstborn' means 'first created' which it does not.Are you denying that you believe that firstborn means first created?You, yourself said this:Quote He created Jesus from nothing.You…[Read more]

Mike,If a firstborn is without a beginning, then the firstborn would be eternal. Right? You think that it is impossible for the firstborn of an eternal being to not have been eternally within the eternal being before being begotten, but you have no proof of that.If there is only one eternal person who became begotten and hence firstborn, then you…[Read more]

In response to what Mike just posted go here, second post down:https://www.heavennet.net/cgi-bin….y308965

Mike said in another thread:Quote Daniel 7:18But the saints of the Most High will receive the kingdom and will possess it forever—yes, for ever and ever.’Daniel 7:22until the Ancient of Days came and pronounced judgment in favor of the saints of the Most High, and the time came when they possessed the kingdom.Daniel 7:27Then the sovereignty, pow…[Read more]

Mike,I should know if I am afraid or not.  Right?  I know that is not why I am not discussing this topic. Along with what I have told you from the beginning, it is because, imo you exalt satan when we discuss him.  You make him bigger than he is and I do not want to participate in you doing that.So, I know you do not have discernment and do not…[Read more]

Irene,While you are at it, prove that I invented the compound unity doctrine, or stop spouting off about that too. Google 'compound unity of God' and see if I am the writer of every article or if every writer uses me as their source. You are being ridiculous with saying that and showing how uninformed you are!You are lying about this:Here I…[Read more]

Irene,I think that it is pretty funny that you ran away from our one on one discussion and then you said what you just did. Prove that I didn't discuss this topic because I do not want to discuss scriptures with him. Prove it Irene, or be stop spouting off!

Irene,All my children are equally human natured as their father is.Likewise, Jesus is equally deity natured as His father is.Are your children less human natured than Georg or are they equal in this regards?

Irene,Who does Jesus call His father…God, or all of creation? The answer will tell you what 'group' He is a part of. Also, can you show me any firstborn who begets his own brothers?To know what group a firstborn is a part of, ask the firstborn what group his father is a part of. If Jesus is a part of all creation, then so is his father. We…[Read more]

That is right Irene, Jesus is the only BEGOTTEN Son of God, not the only created son of God. Begotten is not 'created out of nothing.' If he were created, then he would not be begotten and have the nature of God with the eternal wisdom and power of God.Rev 3:14 says nothing about the Son being created.Prov 8:22 says nothing about the Son being…[Read more]

Mike,Where is the scripture that says David is the firstborn of all the kings?Who made David a firstborn…all the kings or God?Does that mean that David was not born until this verse and thus David came by God birthing him or by God designating Him an honor of being called His firstborn to show preeminence of all the kings on earth?This is what…[Read more]

Col 1:9 For this reason also, since the day we heard of it, we have not ceased to pray for you and to ask that you may be filled with the knowledge of His will in all spiritual wisdom and understanding, 10so that you will walk in a manner worthy of the Lord, to please Him in all respects, bearing fruit in every good work and increasing in the…[Read more]

Eph 5:5For this you know with certainty, that no immoral or impure person or covetous man, who is an idolater, has an inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God.The kingdom is a compound unity which belongs to Christ AND God together. They own the kingdom of which believer's inherit. Believer's do not inherit the Father as someone said, but…[Read more]