Quote (Paladin @ Sep. 18 2011,08:17)Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 18 2011,11:27)Quote (Paladin @ Sep. 18 2011,05:49)Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 18 2011,10:40)Quote (Paladin @ Sep. 17 2011,01:12)John 1:1 does not say anything about “in the beginning was pre-existant Jesus, pirit.and pre-existant Jesus was with God, and pre-existant Jesus was God;” and John 1:14 does…[Read more]

Mike,Who is the Lord in this verse?Matthew 11:25 (NASB) 25 At that time Jesus said, "I praise You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that You have hidden these things from the wise and intelligent and have revealed them to infants. And who is the 'God' in this verse:Hebrews 1:8But of the Son He says, "YOUR THRONE, O GOD, IS FOREVER AND EVER, AND…[Read more]

Mike,Quote Yet for US, there is only ONE God………….THE FATHER. And one Lord…………Jesus Christ.That makes two that are deity for millions of those of us who have faith in the deity of the Father and the Son.

Mike,I'm still researching this but you can cross off Nebuchadnezzar and Artaxerxes. Neither of them are kings of kings. They are both singular, i.e. king of kings according to the morphology that is in my new study tool.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 12 2011,20:40)Kathi,How many θεοὶ are mentioned in John 1:1?  (θεοὶ is the plural form of theos)none. But there are two who are theos in John 1:1 and they are not the same person.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 15 2011,19:30)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 14 2011,21:37)Joshua of Jericho had the Hebrew version of 'Jesus' but he was a type of the Jesus who actually was the Messiah.AND…………..?!?!?Kathi, find another way to prove Jesus is God, okay?  “Jesus” was a VERY COMMON name in the time of Christ, Kathi.  And one can't s…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 15 2011,19:32)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 14 2011,21:51)John 8:28 does not have a direct object after it and that causes it to stand out and be used differently than normal which is when a direct object is expected.Kathi,Why not DIRECTLY address the points in my post at the top of this page and end this charade?Mike,Your…[Read more]

Quote (Pastry @ Sep. 15 2011,03:07)Kathi!  Then why does it say Jehovah is God the Most Hogh God ALONE in \Psa 83:18 that they may know that you alone, whose name is the LORD, are the Most High over all the earth.  The Bible does not contradict itself.  Mike and t8 are right…..IreneIrene,Look at this verse:Isaiah 44:24 Thus said Jehovah, thy re…[Read more]

Here is another of those verses in the OT that has a plural translated as a singular:Ecclesiates 12:1 Remember also your Creator in the days of your youth, before the evil days come and the years draw near when you will say, “I have no delight in them”;Here, the word 'Creator' is actually a plural word in the original Hebrew.A couple of…[Read more]

Mike,Quote 2 Chronicles 28:16 NIVAt that time King Ahaz sent to the king of Assyria for help.This word 'king' is translated as 'kings' in many versions. The commentaries have different ideas about this. One says that 'kings' means the king and his son. (Gill) Another says 'kings' means princes, who may be called kings in a more general…[Read more]

Thanks Mike, I am going to have a look at those in my new study tool.

Quote (t8 @ Sep. 12 2011,23:09)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 04 2011,02:01)John 8:24 is mistranslated.  Earlier manuscripts do not have the added words.  You knew that probably though didn't you.John 8:24 That is why I told you that you will die in your sins, for unless you believe that I AM, you will die in your sins.”You are interested in truth, r…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 12 2011,20:01)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 12 2011,17:59)And what does the name 'Jesus' mean…Jehovah our Righteousness.Well, “Jesus” is the English way to say “Iesous”.  And “Iesous” is the Greek way to say “Joshua”.  And “Joshua” is the Hebrew way to say “Jehovah is our Righteousness”.Now, is EVERYONE in the scriptures w…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 14 2011,21:57)Kathi,You are skirting the issue.  Will any of your brothers or sisters at church stand beside you and boldly proclaim that they worship TWO completely separate Gods?When you say separate Gods, you give the wrong impression. God the Father and God the Son are not God to us separately but interdependently.…[Read more]

Mike,Quote So post Gen 18, and show me how it's impossible to have only ONE Jehovah because of this scripture. I'll show you it is not.We have been over and over Gen 18. All you can say is the vice regent argument…I have heard it many times…I disagree. Do you have anything besides that?Quote Also, Jesus isn't an angel, servant, Lamb, Son,…[Read more]

Mike,Everyone I go to church with appears to openly worship the Father as God and the Son as God and they believe they are two distinct persons.  As I understand it, trinitarians believe in the Father, Son and the Holy Spirit are a compound unity as one God, yet each person is 100% God by nature.

Mike,I have been saying that all along since I started focusing on Deut 10:17. I'm glad you are catching up though

Mike,As I understand it, every trinitarian thinks that each of the three 'persons' is 100% God and form one unity as God. They also believe in a compound unity. The early church father's did too. It is just symantics. They will say that each are equally God in nature yet they are not three Gods but one God.Gen 18 and 19 does not clarify any…[Read more]

Ok Mike,Done!

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 12 2011,20:34)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 12 2011,13:54)Jehovah the Father was talking to Jehovah our Righteousness (the Son).Kathi,Are you positive that Psalm 110 is not just a matter of our ONE God Jehovah offering His Son, Servant, Lamb, Angel, Word, and Prophet the most esteemed position at the right hand of the Most High…[Read more]