Mike,you wrote:Quote If Jesus is not the One who made all these things, then he must be one of the things that One made.That's false teaching. If Jesus is not the one being addressed, that doesn't mean that He wasn't with the one being addressed and that the one being addressed didn't make all things by Jesus. Of course when He is spoken of as…[Read more]

Mike,you wrote:Quote So what's the answer, Kathi? Because in Is 42, Jehovah is clearly telling His messiah that Jehovah is HIS Name. And He is clearly telling His messiah that HE will share His glory with no other.Duh…I know that Jehovah is the Father's name and that is why I have brought up the verse that has Jesus talking to the Father about…[Read more]

Pierre,Very funny!”…do not let them be heard on your lips.” I don't think you can get around this command when you do all things in Jesus name. John 16:26“In that day you will ask in My name, and I do not say to you that I will request of the Father on your behalf; 27for the Father Himself loves you, because you have loved Me and have b…[Read more]

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Nov. 16 2011,17:16)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 17 2011,08:20)Frank, you say you've answered my questions.  Perhaps I missed your answers to these last two I asked:Frank, at what point in Jesus' life was he so swelled up with pride that he had to empty himself of it?At what point in your life were you in a different form prior…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Nov. 16 2011,16:36)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 17 2011,07:24)Also Frank,Can you show me any NT verses that tell us that the Father is the bridegroom or the husband of the redeemed?Thanks,KathiKathi, is that scripture talking about Israel or the Church?I know that Jesus didn't die for Israel but for all and God dealt with Israel by sending…[Read more]

Mike and Irene,If you don't believe that Jesus is God as the Son and the Highest one together with the Father then you are believing in an idol god if He is anything less.If you use Jesus' name, and you do not believe that He is God with the Father, then you violate this command:Exodus 23:13“Now concerning everything which I have said to you, be o…[Read more]

Very funny Mike. I suppose you want us all to write really long posts to verify everything said. Then you would complain about that.

I'm glad to hear a good report from you Irene. Ya'll needed that!God bless,Kathi

Also Frank,Can you show me any NT verses that tell us that the Father is the bridegroom or the husband of the redeemed?Thanks,Kathi

Frank,But I never said that He was His own Father. There are two persons that are called Yahweh. The Father gave His Son His own name. Many fathers do that even now. Do you have a Frank Jr.?John 17:11″I am no longer in the world; and yet they themselves are in the world, and I come to You. Holy Father, keep them in Your name, the name which…[Read more]

Quote Removing 'the son of' turns the truth into the lie. A truth that many are trying to dispel. But the gates of hell cannot prevail against this truth.Did Thomas lie when He called Jesus His Lord and His God??Did Jesus lie when He affirmed Thomas for calling Him that??

Frank,Hello…I thought you should know that the bridegroom that is coming for the church is the Son, Yahweh. Isaiah speaks of Him here:Isaiah 54:5″For your husband is your Maker, Whose name is the LORD (Yahweh) of hosts; And your Redeemer is the Holy One of Israel, Who is called the God of all the earth. The Father, Yahweh, never is said to be…[Read more]

Pierre,Quote this is written in black and white ,NO??Nothing there says anything about the Son being created. It does say that all things were created by Him though Kathi

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 15 2011,17:00)Jack, will you address the fact that anytime Jehovah called himself by Name, He said “I am I AM”?  Will you address the fact that Jesus never said that phrase?Kathi?  Will you address this point?(Disclaimer:  I am using the “I AM” definition of “YHWH” solely to make a point here.  I believe that God's per…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 14 2011,21:47)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 14 2011,19:46)Also, regarding the 'ego eimi'…why would people die in their sins?  They all believed that He existed.  He was claiming something more than just existence that one had to believe.That's why the NIV has it right.  They understand and translate the spirit of what Jesus wa…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Nov. 15 2011,02:42)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 15 2011,12:22)t8,The 'ego eimi' does not have a direct object and that makes it significantly different than the other times.  You don't seem to see that it makes a difference.Kathi, if they asked if he was Jesus of Nazareth, and 'I am' is a sufficient answer if you wish to reply with a…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 15 2011,19:41)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 15 2011,19:51)Pierre,A firstborn already has existed for a while within it's 'host' before getting the title of 'firstborn.' The claim that He is the Firstborn does not speak about an origin but a begettal of one that was already in existence.KathiKathiGod is not man ,he does not…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 14 2011,21:21)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 14 2011,19:02)Quote (mikeboll @ 64)There is only ONE Jesus, Kathi.  The Son of Man who said “I came down from heaven” is the Son of God who was in heaven before he came down from heaven. There is also only one Mikeboll here but sometimes I speak to you as the moderator and sometimes I…[Read more]

Pierre,A firstborn already has existed for a while within it's 'host' before getting the title of 'firstborn.' The claim that He is the Firstborn does not speak about an origin but a begettal of one that was already in existence.Kathi

Also, regarding the 'ego eimi'…why would people die in their sins? They all believed that He existed. He was claiming something more than just existence that one had to believe.