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    Mike,I have not studied this to the nth degree but I believe that it is likely the kingdom of the darkness that the Son, according to his High Priest/Mediator role, was given reign over and He destroyed the powers of that kingdom so that the only kingdom that remained was where God (as a unity of Father, Son, and their Spirit) was always…[Read more]

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    Charles,Col 1:15 mentions that the Son is the Firstborn and firstborns must be begotten in order to be firstborns in the normal sense of the word. Begotten can certainly mean born, did you not know that? The other instances when someone is not technically the first to open the womb but takes the place of the actual one that was the first, in those…[Read more]

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    Charles,I don't believe that your theory is supported by scripture but by imagination. See here:Col 1 15He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation. 16For by Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things have been c…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 15 2012,20:44)Hmmm…………..For me the card just stayed there forever.   :(   Buy it sounds like it is funny, and I'll take your word for it that it is.  :)Loser…ha, just kidding :)

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    Hi Charles,I agree that the Son was most likely brought forth when God said, “Let there be light.” I do not agree that satan fell before that happened though. I don't believe that anything was formed before then including angels. Darkness is merely the absence of light. Thanks for your response though.Blessings,Kathi

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    Ok, guys, what kingdom is being spoken of that Jesus hands over…there are more than one mentioned in scripture. Please back up your answer with scripture. Thanks!

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    Hi BD,Again, thank you for responding. you said:Quote Once again you say God lacks nothing and I agree, therefore if God lacks nothing it also means he does not need to have offspring.Ah, but our perspective is so limited. Perhaps God lacks nothing because His only begotten offspring and His Spirit have always been a part of Him and within Him…[Read more]

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    Well Mike, it works for me every time. Maybe you need to try again. Did you see the 'Sorry' card? After that, the card closes and a man playing a piano starts singing to you personally. It is really bizarre!

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    BD,Thanks for your response.Since God is all powerful, He can have an eternal offspring within Him if that is part of His perfection. He is perfect and lacking nothing. you said:Quote Why would God need an “offspring” and who would he make this offspring with and if He would make it by Himself again what would be the point ince God could create…[Read more]

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    Ok…sorry guys but this one is for the girls. Ladies, go here and put in your first name and then wait for a surprise after the 'sorry' note:http://obtampons.ca/apologyI hope that works! (Guys, you can do it too but it might make you blush, ha).Enjoy!

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    Quote (seekingtruth @ May 07 2012,04:52)Kathi,Sorry I've been very busy. You asked: Quote So, are you calling the manifestation “the offspring of God” and was that proceeding from the Father an act that happened at the time of creation? Yes, as the laws that govern our reality came into play, God was manifested, not as a creation but as a result…[Read more]

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    Quote (bodhitharta @ May 09 2012,12:29)If God is not a Male how then can he be considered an actual Father of someone other than as a metaphor?Hi BD,I have been reading along but I have been busy with guests for the last couple of weeks. I have a question for you.Do you believe that God can create a man to do something that He Himself cannot do?…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic For Jammin in the forum The Hot Seat 14 years ago

    Mike,Quote Also, do you know of any son who existed from the moment his father existed?You totally get stuck here, imo. Do you know how someone who is god by nature could have not always existed? Can someone with their original nature being a god nature have a beginning? If so, they wouldn't be a god in nature, imo. Even man existed within the…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic For Jammin in the forum The Hot Seat 14 years ago

    Mike,you said:Quote Has there ever been a father and a son who have been the same exact BEING? Is that the case with any human being you know? If WE are not made in a way that a father is the same BEING as his son, and WE are made in the image of God, then why would you make the unscriptural and unsubstantiated claim that God and His Son are the…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic For Jammin in the forum The Hot Seat 14 years ago

    Hi Mike,you said:Quote Jehovah is a god, and since his Son shares His nature, he is also a god.You believe that there are many gods. Do you believe that the 'gods' that are gods other than Jesus and His Father are also gods because they are literal sons of God and have His nature as literal sons always have the same nature as their father? Or how…[Read more]

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    Hi David,Sorry I haven't responded sooner but I have been busy. I have my dear mom and her friend staying with me for a couple of weeks. Off the top of my head, I believe that the doctrine of the apostles tells when it was written. I think it was on the day of Pentecost after they received the tongues or near that time and before the apostles…[Read more]

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    Jammin,You are right that the Son is God natured. The apostles went out into the world and taught that.Blessings to you!

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    Lightenup replied to the topic For Jammin in the forum The Hot Seat 14 years ago

    Jammin, You are absolutely right! The Father is called LORD in some contexts and in other contexts the Son is called LORD. Sometimes LORD refers to the unity they make. Keep up the good work!

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    shimmer,The body and the spirit are two different things, true. However, what we sense in our spirit isn't always of God and what we sense with our physical senses isn't always of God. Our emotions can deceive us just as much, if not more than our physical senses. We really do depend on and trust Jesus to shepherd us and protect us because we can…[Read more]

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