Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 28 2012,19:37)Quote (Lightenup @ June 28 2012,17:42)Mike,The context of Heb 1 says nothing about a new name but it does call Him 'the Son of God' in the context. The literal Son of God would be superior to the angels. I think that the point is that He is far superior to the angels.It is scriptural that Jesus INHERITED a…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 28 2012,19:34)No he can't, because if “The Most High God” is a unity, then it would be that unity who has a Son named Jesus.  If only ONE has a Son named Jesus, then only ONE is “The Most High God”.Mike,Follow along:If the United States is a unity, then it would be that unity that has a President named Obama.Obama is a…[Read more]

Mike,you said:Quote THE Most High God does have a Son named Jesus. If Jesus doesn't, then Jesus is not THE Most High God.He can be a member of the unity of the Most High God as the Lord of lords.

Mike,The context of Heb 1 says nothing about a new name but it does call Him 'the Son of God' in the context. The literal Son of God would be superior to the angels. I think that the point is that He is far superior to the angels.

Quote (bodhitharta @ June 28 2012,14:40)You simply don't get many parts of the Bible Jesus declared that he was not the son of David but you don't understand.Mark 12:35-37King James Version (KJV) 35 And Jesus answered and said, while he taught in the temple, How say the scribes that Christ is the son of David? 36 For David himself said by the Holy…[Read more]

BD,Quote is there ever any condition in which you see the words “ONE”, “ONLY” and “I” as being literal? According to you anyone could claim even several more gods all being the highest you already have 2 in the number 1 spot.Context rules. Jesus is the only 'Begotten' God. There are no others.

BD,Quote Now I see by the way you right, how you interpret if I thought like you I could say you just proclaimed me “Lord Bodhitharta”LOL, I'm glad you realize that I do not see you as the Lord Jesus. Thanks for catching that. Is that the only punctuation error that I have made in this thread? I'll bet you can find others. Why don't you read it…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ June 28 2012,00:37)Okay enough of this thread Kathi has her mind set to bend any way possible to believe what she already believes and that's okay perhaps it gives her peace. The Jews got peace from simply not believing Jesus was even Christ but that's okay too.Romans 11:32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he…[Read more]

Mike,you asked:Quote 1.  How could Jesus have “BECOME as much superior to the angels as the name he has INHERITED is superior to theirs”?I believe you are referring to this chapter in Hebrews:1God, after He spoke long ago to the fathers in the prophets in many portions and in many ways, 2in these last days has spoken to us in His Son, whom He…[Read more]

BD,you asked:Quote I asked you was JESUS CHRIST correct in saying that the FATHER was THE ONLY TRUE GOD?Jesus was saying that it was important to KNOW the Father and He referred to Him as the only true God and to also KNOW Himself, Jesus for our salvation.Now, what I KNOW of the Father is that HE beget a literal Son. What I KNOW of the Son is that…[Read more]

BD,John 17:3 is telling us that eternal life comes from knowing both. It tells us that the Father is the only true God which goes along with the title “God of gods” and the one God, the Father. Jehovah is more than the God of gods, though. Jehovah is also the Lord of lords and we are told that the Lamb is the 'Lord of lords.' In another context,…[Read more]

BD,I answered you clearly and sincerely. Jesus used the same approach with satan. It was appropriate for Him to use and I follow Him.”It is written…”

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 26 2012,22:45)We can also distinguish one of them as God Almighty, and the other as His Lamb, Son, Servant, Priest, Mediator, Prophet, etc.Btw, I left the “s” out inadverently.  I meant to say, And don't waste mine with silly comparisons like “Jesus is called good, and God is called good, therefore Jesus must BE God.” We…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 26 2012,22:10)Both are involved in creationI was involved in the creation of my son.  God created him THROUGH me, just as God created all things THROUGH His Servant Jesus.  It doesn't mean Jesus is the God who brought him forth anymore than it means I'm the God who brought me forth.Both are involved in the act required f…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 26 2012,21:55)Quote (Lightenup @ June 26 2012,19:53)don't waste my time with going down a rabbit trailAnd don't waste mine with silly comparison like “Jesus is called good, and God is called good, therefore Jesus must BE God.” You do realize that we can distinguish God from His SERVANT Jesus the same way you distinguished…[Read more]

Mike,Jehovah the Father has only one begotten Son who is Jehovah the Son. He did not beget other sons, He created other sons. His only begotten Son is the same kind as Jehovah the Father. No other sons are the same kind as Jehovah the Father because they were not begotten in regards to their primary existence.Presidents/kings don't beget…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 26 2012,18:47)Quote (Lightenup @ June 25 2012,23:10)Actually I used scripture to defend my point. Here is another:Rev 19:16 On his robe and on his thigh he has this name written: KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS.Yes Kathi, Jesus is called the King of kings.  So is his God.  And so is King Nebuchadnezzar.  God is called “g…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 26 2012,18:43)Quote (Lightenup @ June 25 2012,23:04)Mike,you said:Quote I don't believe your letter was written in the first century, and I definitely KNOW it was not written by Simon, the one Jesus named Cephas.  If you definitely know these things, where is your proof?I eliminate it as a fraud the same way those who…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ June 26 2012,10:16)BTW,I have to be more clear with you there is a difference between a Unity and a Number count. If there is ONE God it does not mean there is one group or type it means. How many? Count 1 stop. To say me and my father is one is a statement of Unity to say that my Father is the ONLY True God is a statement of…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ June 26 2012,10:10)Quote (Lightenup @ June 26 2012,16:10)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 25 2012,18:47)Quote (Lightenup @ June 25 2012,11:41)BD,If you see that LORD=Jehovah/YHVH and if you see that YHVH=the God of gods and the Lord of lordsand if you see that for us there is one God (Father) and one Lord (Son)and if you see that the…[Read more]