Pierre,The Son's eternal power was demonstrated since the creation of the world. 16For by Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things have been created through Him and for Him. 17He is before all things, and in Him all things hold t…[Read more]

Pierre,Your problem is then with scripture, not me. I gave you the scripture and bolded it for you.

Pierre,Follow the thought of the post. I am not saying that the verse should mean or say 'God the Father.' I am showing how t8's test is faulty.

t8,I can't fault you for thinking like a man since you are a man. We have to remember that spiritual truths are spiritually appraised. You believe that the Son must be younger than the Father because that is always the case in the physical world but it is always the case in the physical world that the fathers did not eternally exist too. You apply…[Read more]

Pierre,The Christ crucified is the power of God. 22For indeed Jews ask for signs and Greeks search for wisdom; 23but we preach Christ crucified, to Jews a stumbling block and to Gentiles foolishness, 24but to those who are the called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God. 25Because the foolishness of God is wiser…[Read more]

About t8's 'test' on the trinity, Andrew said this:Quote Actually I spent a whole weekend and stayed up all night reading it and re-reading it right before I signed up here.It's excellent.It's what opened my eyes and got me to really seeking.I did a search on trinity after listening to a debate between James White and a oneness pentacostal,and…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 06 2012,01:04)Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 06 2012,15:59)Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 06 2012,22:51)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 06 2012,10:21)John 1035 If he called them ‘gods,’ to whom the word of God came—and the Scripture cannot be broken— 36 what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world?Christ and Mes…[Read more]

Quote (AndrewAD @ Oct. 06 2012,00:42)Quote For instance, Mike believes in the pre-existent Son of God and you don't believe in a pre-existent Son of God.Yes I knew that from some of his statements and if you'd asked me a month ago or less I would've agreed.I'm still learning or rather re-learning.I'm not dead set on many things.And on some points…[Read more]

Andrew,I am bringing over a post of yours from the other thread because I want to address your comments where it doesn't turn into just a mass of people going round and round about things randomly and points get lost. That is what happens, for the most part, when people come and go in the open discussions around here.Here is your post with my…[Read more]

Pierre,Quote Many gods and many men are almighty in their own range,Maybe in someone's eyes but Jesus and the Father have authority over them. So much for being almighty in someone's eyes if you aren't almighty in the eyes of the Father and Son.

jammin,Skype me if you want…I have some time tonight. It would be nice to chat with you again.

BD,A righteous man can not die for the sins of all mankind, even for the sins of his dearest child. That is an established truth in scripture. What would be a more perfect sacrifice than for one who is equally perfect to the Father, the beloved of the Father, to be given over to the abuse He was to face and then to be killed as a criminal when He…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ Oct. 05 2012,21:14)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 06 2012,10:06)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 05 2012,07:58)Matthew Henry's Concise Commentary………. he is the Almighty; the same eternal and unchanged One.Hmmmm………………The words “THE Almighty” imply only ONE Almighty.  If Christ is THE Almighty, then who is this OTHER Almighty, to…[Read more]

jammin,ikaw ay salubungin

You are very welcome Happyman Nice to see you, i hope you are well!

Quote (jammin @ Oct. 04 2012,17:31)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 05 2012,02:34)Quote (jammin @ Oct. 04 2012,04:24)the vice president is not the president but they are both HUMAN by nature…………So then you understand that Jesus (vice-president) is not God Almighty (The President)?  Good for you, jammin.do not cut my post. paste the whole post…[Read more]

Good morning Andrew,I said that I would show you how a son can be within the father and also be exactly like the father and I will do that sometime, probably very soon. This morning I feel led to post an excerpt from an article that addresses some of your questions. I think it is well written and agree with it. You can follow the link for the full…[Read more]

BD,Good morning! I love this time of year!! I bet the trees are pretty up north where you are.I was thinking about you and some others as I read this article. I thought it was well written and addresses many of the questions that you have been asking. I will just post an excerpt here and give you a link to the rest of the article.The God Who…[Read more]

BD,Christians are joint heirs of life eternal. This is not a position.1 Peter 3And you men, in this way dwell with your wives by knowledge, and hold them in honor as weaker vessels, lest you be subverted in your prayers, because they also inherit the gift of eternal life with you.

Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 01 2012,17:56)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 01 2012,16:13)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 30 2012,14:42)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 29 2012,17:05)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 28 2012,17:39)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 28 2012,16:17)So, Mike, can you say Yeshua is the LORD JEHOVAH?Sorry Kathi,My God is named Jehovah.  His Son is named Jesus – not…[Read more]