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Lightenup replied to the topic Origen's understanding of John 1:1 in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 13 years, 3 months ago
Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 23 2013,12:53)Quote (t8 @ Mar. 22 2013,00:18)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 22 2013,18:02)t8,The Hebrew word ha-adam has the article 'ha' and refers to one person no matter what their proper name is. If the proper name is meant 'Adam' there is no 'ha' with it. That is what the article is saying. It is also saying that adam without…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Root and branch in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 3 months ago
Give him a break Mike, he didn't say that he wasn't going to discuss it. He needs to think about it all first. That is a good thing!
Lightenup replied to the topic Origen's understanding of John 1:1 in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 13 years, 3 months ago
Mike,I believe that having two words in the nominative case in one clause is very significant. The second word did not need to be in the nominative case because there already is a subject of the clause, but it is. You ought to study this in other verses. For instance, I found this one today:Mark 15:39NET Bible (©2006)Now when the centurion, who…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Root and branch in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 3 months ago
Ok 2besee, thanks.
Lightenup replied to the topic Non-trinity believing church? in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 3 months ago
jb2u…cont'd:Here are things that Jesus says about Himself, or does, or will do, because God is His very OWN FATHER. As you will see, being the actual SON OF GOD allows HIM to do GOD THINGS. You will see that the emphasis of Jesus' response to the Jews was NOT about what He can't do because He is just a Son but how much He CAN DO BECAUSE HE IS…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Non-trinity believing church? in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 3 months ago
Jb2u…cont'dQuote <>English Standard VersionThe Healing at the Pool on the Sabbath1After this there was a feast of the Jews, and Jesus went up to Jerusalem.2Now there is in Jerusalem by the Sheep Gate a pool, in Aramaica called Bethesda,b which has five roofed colonnades. 3In these lay a multitude of invalids—blind, lame, and paralyzed.c 5One m…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Non-trinity believing church? in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 3 months ago
Quote (jb2u @ Mar. 16 2013,09:40)Lightenup…I watched the video and I have to say that I disagree.Jesus made it clear that he was not equal with the father!!First, in the verses that this preacher cited, he is wrong by saying in John 5:19 that Jesus did not refute their suggestion that he was saying that he was equal with the father.John 5:19…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Root and branch in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 3 months ago
Kerwin,you said:Quote Second, Jesse is the genealogical root of Jesse as without Jesse there is no Jesse.Jesse is the genealogical root of himself??? Did you mean Jesus?
Lightenup replied to the topic Root and branch in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 3 months ago
Kerwin,you said:Quote First, the KJV state “a root” not “the root”.The article 'the' with 'root' IS in the Greek in the NT reference of Isa 11. You can see that here:http://interlinearbible.org/romans/15-12.htmNew American Standard Bible (©1995)Again Isaiah says, “THERE SHALL COME THE ROOT OF JESSE, AND HE WHO ARISES TO RULE OVER THE GENTILES, IN…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic 2 words-nominative case w/1verb database in the forum Group Discussions 13 years, 3 months ago
Matthew 3:4English Standard Version (©2001)Now John wore a garment of camel’s hair and a leather belt around his waist, and his food was locusts and wild honey.'Food' and 'locusts' and 'honey' are written in the nominative case but 'food' has an article and the other two don't. That makes 'food' the subject of the clause, but I'm no Greek sc…
Lightenup replied to the topic 2 words-nominative case w/1verb database in the forum Group Discussions 13 years, 3 months ago
Mark 15:39NET Bible (©2006)Now when the centurion, who stood in front of him, saw how he died, he said, “Truly this man was God's Son!”From what I can tell, this last part that is bolded is similar to John 1:1c with 'this man' and 'God's Son' both being in the nominative case but 'God's Son' does not have seem to have the article in the…
Lightenup replied to the topic Root and branch in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 3 months ago
Quote (2besee @ Mar. 23 2013,16:55)LU,Quote Isa 11:1A shoot will come up from the stump of Jesse;from his roots a Branch will bear fruit.Young's Literal TranslationAnd a rod hath come out from the stock of Jesse, And a branch from his roots is fruitful.“His roots” means from Jesse's roots, does it not?Quote Romans 15……………..“The Root of J…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Origen's understanding of John 1:1 in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 13 years, 3 months ago
Here is what NET notes concludes with John 1:1c:sn And the Word was fully God. John’s theology consistently drives toward the conclusion that Jesus, the incarnate Word, is just as much God as God the Father. This can be seen, for example, in texts like John 10:30 (“The Father and I are one”), 17:11 (“so that they may be one just as we are one”),…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The divider of Christians in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 3 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 23 2013,22:23)Kathi, while I admire your search into the scriptures to find hidden treasures, I can't help but notice that you go way out of your way to find any little tidbit that you can “sway” into saying Jesus is God Almighty – all the while ignoring the many CLEAR scriptures that say we have ONE Almighty God, and…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The divider of Christians in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 3 months ago
Mike,Quote He is clothed in a robe dipped in blood…….. He will tread the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God the Almighty.The word 'will' is not a good translation since the word 'tread' is in the present indicative active and not in the future tense. You can see that many of the translations have it written correctly.New International…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Origen's understanding of John 1:1 in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 13 years, 3 months ago
Yes Mike, like I have said…God with God. The unbegotten God with the begotten God.I do not agree with t8 who thinks that the theos in 1c means 'divine.' He says that 'the word was divine' but that would make 'divine' an adjective and not a noun. Theos in 1c is a noun that is in the nominative case. Also, it cannot mean 'the word was godkind'…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic LU and BD Biblical discussion cont'd in the forum Debates 13 years, 3 months ago
Whether it matters or not, do you believe Jesus is called 'theos' in the Bible?Also, where is Paul called 'theos' and who is it that is calling him that?
Lightenup replied to the topic The divider of Christians in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 3 months ago
Thank you wakeup! So, just to be sure…who do you say is the ''I” in Isaiah 63.
Lightenup replied to the topic Root and branch in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 3 months ago
Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 21 2013,23:04)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 22 2013,09:30)Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 21 2013,20:05)LU,Jesus is the offspring of Jesse, the shoot that comes out of the stump of Jesse. The stump that is rooted in Yawheh. Jesus is the root of Jesse, the corner stone that is laid in Zion. The foundation stones of the prophets were laid fi…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Root and branch in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 3 months ago
Mike,you asked:Quote Is Jesse the root of David? YES or NO?Is David the root of Jesse? YES or NO? No, Jesse is not considered the root of David in the context of Isa 11. Although, we could say 'yes' to that in a sense but not in the same sense it is used in Isa 11.No, David is not the root of Jesse.I don't believe that a father or forefather are…[Read more]
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