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Lightenup replied to the topic PROOF of Jesus' eternal past existence in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 3 months ago
Hi AndrewAD
Do you believe that the Father created the world alone or through Jesus?
Lightenup posted an update 11 years, 4 months ago
@GeneBalthrop Hi Gene, here is our discussion thread:
https://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/lightenup-and-genebalthrop-only/
See you there.Lightenup replied to the topic For the Lord your God is God of gods in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years, 4 months ago
@Anastas
We possibly agree, although you probably forgot a comma which would mean we don’t agree.
You said:The main thing is to recognize who the true God is, that is to say the Father and the one He sent, the Christ.
I would agree if you were saying that the true God is the Father and Christ. You may have missed a comma, idk.
Also, the wisdom…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic For the Lord your God is God of gods in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years, 4 months ago
@Anastas
you said:The main thing is to recognize who the true God is, that is to say the Father and the one He sent, the Christ.
Agreed…touche’! π π π
Lightenup replied to the topic PROOF of Jesus' eternal past existence in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 4 months ago
@tigger, you are trying to tell us that the creator created the beginning of the creation of God through the beginning of the creation of God. That is not possible. That is why you have to add ‘the rest of’ to ‘He created creation’ in your response. Btw, how could He create ‘in the beginning’ if the beginning did not already exist?
Gen 1:1 In the…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic PROOF of Jesus' eternal past existence in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 4 months ago
@tigger, you are trying to tell us that the creator created the beginning of the creation of God through the beginning of the creation of God. That is an not possible. That is why you have to add ‘the rest of’ to ‘He created creation’ in your response. Btw, how could He create ‘in the beginning’ if the beginning did not already exist?
Gen 1:1 In…[Read more]
Lightenup started the topic PROOF of Jesus' eternal past existence in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 4 months ago
Here in God’s word, lies proof of the eternal past existence of Jesus, the Son of God.
Rev 3:14
And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God.
Think about this…
Before the first created thing, there had to be some creative presence…[Read more]
Lightenup started the topic PROOF of Jesus' eternal past existence in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 4 months ago
Here in God’s word, lies proof of the eternal past existence of Jesus, the Son of God.
Rev 3:14
And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God.
Think about this…
Before the first created thing, there had to be some creative presence…[Read more]
Lightenup started the topic PROOF of Jesus' eternal past existence in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 4 months ago
Here in God’s word, lies proof of the eternal past existence of Jesus, the Son of God.
Rev 3:14
And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;<span class=”p”>
</span>Think about this…
Before the first created thing, there had to be…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic For the Lord your God is God of gods in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years, 4 months ago
Does Jesus have power over you, t8? If so, is it less powerful over you than the power of anyone else? If so, please explain.
Lightenup replied to the topic For the Lord your God is God of gods in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years, 4 months ago
@t8
Wow, you wasted a lot of time on that post to try to show me that I really believe something that I don’t believe-you even know I don’t believe that Jesus is not Jehovah as the Lord of lords.you said:
Thus you ask him to believe Jesus is God based on a wrong assumption if you believe his assumption is wrong that is.
I don’t believe the…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic For the Lord your God is God of gods in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years, 4 months ago
@Anastas
Yes I realize that Prov 8:22 is translated in several different ways. Only one way was meant. I believe that ‘possessed’ is more consistent with the wisdom of God rather than acquired or created. In Prov 8 after v. 22 scholars often suggest that it could be referring to Jesus in a figurative way. The Jews think it is the torah. We really…[Read more]Lightenup posted an update 11 years, 4 months ago
@GeneBalthrop Go here Gene for our closed discussion. I’m looking forward to it.
https://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/lightenup-and-genebalthrop-only/#post-788737Lightenup replied to the topic Lightenup and GeneBalthrop only in the forum Debates 11 years, 4 months ago
Hi Gene,
Thanks for agreeing to discuss with me here in this closed discussion. I hope that it will be fruitful and educational for us both. This is not a debate to determine a winner and a loser. We both win if we both learn truth from God. Lets address one question at a time, and lets take turns asking the questions, ok? You ask one, I answer…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Lightenup and GeneBalthrop only in the forum Debates 11 years, 4 months ago
Hi Gene,
Thanks for agreeing to discuss with me here in this closed discussion. I hope that it will be fruitful and educational for us both. This is not a debate to determine a winner and a loser. We both win if we both learn truth from God. Lets address one question at a time, and lets take turns asking the questions, ok? You ask one, I answer…[Read more]
Lightenup started the topic Lightenup and GeneBalthrop only in the forum Debates 11 years, 4 months ago
Hello all, this thread is a closed discussion between myself and GeneBalthrop. Please do not comment here. If you do, your comments will likely be deleted.
Thank you for respecting the purpose of this thread.
Lightenup
Lightenup replied to the topic For the Lord your God is God of gods in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years, 4 months ago
Terraricca,
The word ‘his’ never means ‘is’ in the English language. When the wise man is shown his error, he no longer continues in his error. When a fool is shown his error, he foolishly continues making his error and even arrogantly so.Β You choose. If you continue in your error, sadly the love of truth is not in you or your memory is fading.
Lightenup replied to the topic Denominations in the forum Faith 11 years, 4 months ago
I am wondering what the name of the church is that you are apart of, do you have a name for it? Is there a creed for that church?
Lightenup replied to the topic Denominations in the forum Faith 11 years, 4 months ago
@Grasshopper
Denominations are going to be dispelled when the truth is clear but until then, there are going to be different understandings on particular doctrines such as baptism. Is baptism for the believer of for the believer and their infants, for example. Sometimes we just aren’t sure on the specifics. All that will be cleared up in time. Let…[Read more]Lightenup replied to the topic Proclaimer vs Lightenup in the forum Debates 11 years, 4 months ago
Psalm 2:7
I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.Acts 13:33
that God has fulfilled this promise to our children in that He raised up Jesus, as it is also written in the second Psalm, ‘YOU ARE MY SON; TODAY I HAVE BEGOTTEN YOU.’Do you see the difference between “today I have…[Read more]
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