@Keith,

They listened to Law( but added to many burdens along with those laws) their hearts were haughty, not humble as should have been.

What examples do you have of them adding to the law; Moses warned of adding or taking away from the law (Deut 4:2). There hearts were “haughty” and not “humble”, where do we read this?

@Keith
Hi Keith, thanks for joining me over here. Could you tell me a little about yourself like when you became a JW and anything you would like me to know about you? Do you live in the States?

@Keith

Amen, Jesus is the Messiah! I set up a one-on-one discussion with you to discuss and share our beliefs. I’m not a JW but always like to discuss the distinctions. If interested, go to the discussion here: https://heavennet.net/forums/topic/lightenup-keith-discussion/#post-948050

Hope to see you there,

Lightenup (LU)

@Keith

Hoping to discuss your JW beliefs here.

@Keith

I don’t believe that we have communicated before now. Nice to “meet” you. Do you agree that Jesus is a son in Solomon’s line legally by adoption with Joseph and biologically through Nathan and eventually through Mary?

@Keith,

So much wrong with what you wrote.

If Eve hadn’t eaten from the “Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil” and have lived forever in perfection, in constant righteousness before G-d, how would they have know how to truly worship G-d? How could they have truly know how to love G-d? Can you truly love someone who provides your every need or…[Read more]

@Keith,

Judas served the true living God, then turned and sold Gods son–

When is it recorded Judas was serving G-d? What is recorded is he was a follower of the Jesus. There are a couple issues with the Judas narrative; first we get two separate accounts, did he hang himself or he fall headlong and his belly burst open. Why two different a…[Read more]

@Keith,

Why are you also afraid to answer questions? I specifically asked:

What do the religious leaders saying “blessed is he” to the Jesus have to do with being “restored”? You said it, please support it.

Who are G-d’s chosen today? I KNOW you have a thought on that one!

Any who serve the true God, then do and teach things against his will=…

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@Keith,

The Jewish religion is apostatized to this day–Jesus told them off at Matt 23 and until they do verse 39 they are cut off( verse 38) of being Gods chosen.

I don’t think we have the same understanding of the word “apostasy”; when you say the “religion” is apostatized I am confused. Apostasy is to “abandon one’s religious faith”, so a…[Read more]

@Keith,

They (Isaelite’s) apostatized and are to this day.

I need clarification of this statement, are you saying the Jewish people abandoned G-d or G-d abandoned them?

Jesus started 1 new one (religion).

What is the one new religion, if one doesn’t follow, they’re in darkness?

@Keith,

I find it humorous you saying our discussion on Ezekiel “isn’t going anywhere.” It isn’t going anywhere because you’re not answering the questions. Are you afraid of what you will find and that it WON’T align with what you have been told is truth? Here’s the wonderful news, once you discover the truth, you will have freedom from the shack…[Read more]

@Keith,
So you didn’t read the passage in the context it was written and believe only what your religion told you to believe…understood. Hoping you would elaborate on who the “you” is…Oh well, I can’t make you verify anything; you have to want truth verses religion. Remember, I walked the christian lifestyle for 40 years before my eyes where o…[Read more]

@Keith,

That isn’t proof, that’s called assumptions (or parroting); the text as a whole doesn’t support G-d speaking of Satan, HE is addressing the king HE is about to judge, along with the city because of their corruption/sin.

Did you read beginning in verse 1 or not; did you compare verses 1-10 to verses 11-19 (magically a parallel); did you…[Read more]

@Keith,

Now you’re just making stuff up! It says nothing of the sort…showing the king of Tyre who the fallen angel is?!?!?Thankfully I wasn’t drinking anything because I would have spit it all over my screen. Where did you come up with that and do you seriously believe it?!?!?

Reread 28:11-19 and go verse by verse explaining what’s happening.…[Read more]

@Keith,

WHEN does it change, at the word “cherub”?!?!? Then does it shift back to the king of Tyre? Who is the “you” in this entire passage referring? What your saying doesn’t make sense; either it’s all about Satan or it’s all about the king, it CANNOT be both! Since it begins with addressing the king of Tyre, IT HAS TO BE TO THE KING OF TYRE…[Read more]

@Keith,

When it states–you were in Eden–ALL know 100% the king of Tyre was not in Eden, but its talking about the anointed Cherub=satan.–verse 14 says its the anointed Cherub=in Eden=the fallen angel.

I never stated or implied the king was in Eden; in fact I said he wasn’t, couldn’t have been.  But that’s not even the question or a point of conten…[Read more]

@Keith,

Can’t really asked someone who’s dead; but the ones I quoted are ones used to educate other pastors…soooo.

You still haven’t given me any names of those who support your thesis Ezekiel was speaking of Satan. You still haven’t identified the “you” in the passage. You still haven’t explained why you believe it’s a reference to Satan, oth…[Read more]

@Keith,

What have you explained? You said according to scholars Satan is to be understood in Ezk 28:13; except, I posted the writings of some prominent christian scholars who state the prophecy is about the king of Tyre. I asked who these scholars claiming the passage is a reference to Satan and you gave nothing, provide the proof of your…[Read more]

@Keith,

Continuing to repeat the same verse without explanation doesn’t explain why you believe the passage is a reference to Satan. You stated “scholars” also say this passage is a reference to Satan, please provide the names of said “scholars”; I would like to read their words.

The following are commentaries of notable scholars of yesteryea…[Read more]