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    @Keith

    You are bringing up John 1:1 and 2 Corinthians 4:4, but those points don’t answer the specific question I asked you. That’s a discussion for another time.

    Let’s stay with the passage I quoted, because it is the Father speaking, and the wording is identical to Psalm 102.

    Hebrews 1:8 says clearly: “But about the Son He says…”…[Read more]

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    LU replied to the topic Lightenup/Keith Discussion in the forum Debates 3 days, 15 hours ago

    @Keith

    I can tell that I was not clear enough with my post. I want to you look at Heb 1:10-14 and Psalm 102:25-28.

    In Hebrews 1:10-12 we see that the Father is speaking about the Son when the Father says:

    Hebrews 1:10 And:

    “In the beginning, O Lord, You laid the foundations of the earth,

    and the heavens are the work of Your hands. 11They w…

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    Lightenup replied to the topic Lightenup/Keith Discussion in the forum Debates 1 week ago

    @Keith

    How do you define “Christians?”

    Jehovah the Father—the One speaking to David’s Lord in Psalm 110:1—identifies His Son in Hebrews 1 with the Jehovah described in Psalm 102.

    Psalm 110:1 shows Jehovah (the Father) speaking to someone distinct: “my Lord.”

    Psalm 102 describes Jehovah as the eternal, unchanging Creator of heaven and earth.

    H…[Read more]

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    @Keith

    One of my sons lives in NY also. I’m in TN, in the Bible Belt of America. 🙂

    So you have been a JW basically all your life. Do JW’s say that they are Christians? Do you know where in the Bible it is written where God the Father identifies Jesus as Jehovah?

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    @Keith,

    Its called justice– A perfect mortal man sinned and lost a good standing with God for all his descendants.

    Adam was punished for his sin, but did G-d reject him for it? NO!!

    Justice = A perfect mortal man lived a sinless existence, yet paid in full the wages of sin he did not owe= the ransom sacrifice.

    Are you saying the Jesus lived a…[Read more]

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    @Keith,

    They listened to Law( but added to many burdens along with those laws) their hearts were haughty, not humble as should have been.

    What examples do you have of them adding to the law; Moses warned of adding or taking away from the law (Deut 4:2). There hearts were “haughty” and not “humble”, where do we read this?

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    @Keith
    Hi Keith, thanks for joining me over here. Could you tell me a little about yourself like when you became a JW and anything you would like me to know about you? Do you live in the States?

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    @Keith

    Amen, Jesus is the Messiah! I set up a one-on-one discussion with you to discuss and share our beliefs. I’m not a JW but always like to discuss the distinctions. If interested, go to the discussion here: https://heavennet.net/forums/topic/lightenup-keith-discussion/#post-948050

    Hope to see you there,

    Lightenup (LU)

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    Lightenup replied to the topic Lightenup/Keith Discussion in the forum Debates 2 weeks ago

    @Keith

    Hoping to discuss your JW beliefs here.

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    @Keith

    Hi there, I’ve noticed your comments in the forum, especially the ones where you explain how you understand Scripture from a Jehovah’s Witness perspective. If you’re open to it, I’d like to have a one‑on‑one discussion with you — not an argument, but a focused conversation where we can each explain our beliefs directly and clearly.

    I’m…[Read more]

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    @Keith

    I don’t believe that we have communicated before now. Nice to “meet” you. Do you agree that Jesus is a son in Solomon’s line legally by adoption with Joseph and biologically through Nathan and eventually through Mary?

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    @Keith,

    So much wrong with what you wrote.

    If Eve hadn’t eaten from the “Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil” and have lived forever in perfection, in constant righteousness before G-d, how would they have know how to truly worship G-d? How could they have truly know how to love G-d? Can you truly love someone who provides your every need or…[Read more]

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    @Keith,

    Judas served the true living God, then turned and sold Gods son–

    When is it recorded Judas was serving G-d? What is recorded is he was a follower of the Jesus. There are a couple issues with the Judas narrative; first we get two separate accounts, did he hang himself or he fall headlong and his belly burst open. Why two different a…[Read more]

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    @Keith,

    Why are you also afraid to answer questions? I specifically asked:

    What do the religious leaders saying “blessed is he” to the Jesus have to do with being “restored”? You said it, please support it.

    Who are G-d’s chosen today? I KNOW you have a thought on that one!

    Any who serve the true God, then do and teach things against his will=…

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    @Keith,

    The Jewish religion is apostatized to this day–Jesus told them off at Matt 23 and until they do verse 39 they are cut off( verse 38) of being Gods chosen.

    I don’t think we have the same understanding of the word “apostasy”; when you say the “religion” is apostatized I am confused. Apostasy is to “abandon one’s religious faith”, so a…[Read more]

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    @Keith,

    They (Isaelite’s) apostatized and are to this day.

    I need clarification of this statement, are you saying the Jewish people abandoned G-d or G-d abandoned them?

    Jesus started 1 new one (religion).

    What is the one new religion, if one doesn’t follow, they’re in darkness?

     

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    @Keith,

    I find it humorous you saying our discussion on Ezekiel “isn’t going anywhere.” It isn’t going anywhere because you’re not answering the questions. Are you afraid of what you will find and that it WON’T align with what you have been told is truth? Here’s the wonderful news, once you discover the truth, you will have freedom from the shack…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of DesireTruth

    @Keith,
    So you didn’t read the passage in the context it was written and believe only what your religion told you to believe…understood. Hoping you would elaborate on who the “you” is…Oh well, I can’t make you verify anything; you have to want truth verses religion. Remember, I walked the christian lifestyle for 40 years before my eyes where o…[Read more]

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    @Keith,

    That isn’t proof, that’s called assumptions (or parroting); the text as a whole doesn’t support G-d speaking of Satan, HE is addressing the king HE is about to judge, along with the city because of their corruption/sin.

    Did you read beginning in verse 1 or not; did you compare verses 1-10 to verses 11-19 (magically a parallel); did you…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of DesireTruth

    @Keith,

    Now you’re just making stuff up! It says nothing of the sort…showing the king of Tyre who the fallen angel is?!?!?Thankfully I wasn’t drinking anything because I would have spit it all over my screen. Where did you come up with that and do you seriously believe it?!?!?

    Reread 28:11-19 and go verse by verse explaining what’s happening.…[Read more]

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