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GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The carnal mind in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years, 2 months ago
Nick….the question should be who Grafted them in to the vine, No man cna come unto me except the Father drag him, God is the vine dresser and He grafts into the vine who ever (HE) choses. If you knew any thing about grafting into vines you would know the vine dresser does the grafting not the branches themselves.
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Universal Salvation in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years, 2 months ago
Shania…..Big difference between Will and (FREE WILL) a free will has no influence on it from any source at all. It is totally neutral, which is an impossibility, all will is the result of cause, you are caused to love your husband if your married, by what He does and you cause him to love by what you do. It has nothing to do with (FREE) Will at…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Satan in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years, 2 months ago
Nick…no it what fits most all scripture while you summation of a being called Satan doesn't fit hardly any scripture but the one in Job and i will believe the far greater minds that see it differently then you as far more accurate then you. To view your way then Peter would have to be Satan, Jesus said He was. But to view it symbolicly Satan…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The carnal mind in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years, 2 months ago
Nick…Right those who fall away God is not working with at this time they are not Saints of God. They are like all those who come to Christ when He comes and say Lord in YOUR Name we DID and these Great WORKS, They are “religious” people who think by their good works they are going to make it into the kingdom, many believe that even now. But…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Satan in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years, 2 months ago
Nick…..those scriptures simply show an adversarial spirit and not an actual being as you proclaim There is and if you follow the story of Job to the end you will see it was God who did all that to Job, Not some being named Satan. God Himself can be Satan, Just like you or anyone else for that matter can be a Satan.
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The carnal mind in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years, 2 months ago
Shania…..> Lets read read the verse you quoted, “it is impossible (IF) they Fall away, to renew them again to repentance since they crucify again for themselves the son of GOD and put to an open shame. For the earth which drinks in the rain that often comes upon it, and bears herbs useful for those by whom it is cultivated, receives blessings…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 18 years, 2 months ago
WJ…again I know you and nick would more then likely not want that to say what it says i understand that, but as far as i am concerned it does fit with the foreknowledge of an all wise and knowing God , who said He knew the End from the Beginning, and it certainly fit that. We will have to agree to disagree on this.peace to you and yours……..gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Satan in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years, 2 months ago
Jodi….Amen. Irene…Einstein said that Sir Issac Newton in his opinion was the smartest man who ever lived, and Newton did more on the bible then He did anything else and He concluded that there was no Satan Being as such, but that term can apply to anyone who is an adversary if not then the Apostle Peter was Satan according to Jesus. We have to…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 18 years, 2 months ago
Wj…you can find anything on the net to support any position you take , but if we say God knows the end from the beginning then he must have known Jesus would be sacrificed for the sins of the world also. To say other wise would deny Him know the end from the beginning then. Jesus was not a come along after ward plan or a option of some kind. If…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The carnal mind in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years, 2 months ago
Nick…..there you go again lying i have no contempt for others maybe you but seem to, Just face it you do not know the scriptures or you could have easily understood what me and others are talking about.If anyone has contempt it's you for God Mercy on all. you seem to be the one who can't stand that, even thought you have been given many…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Value of the Sacrifice in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 2 months ago
nick…there are both a physical Israel who will not continue to abide in unbelief when he removes the blindness he put on the and there is the Spiritual Israel which God has already removed there blindness and given them His spirit.But BOTH SHALL BE SAVED. AS IT SAYS ALL OF ISRAEL SHALL BE SAVED. who are you to decide which Israel it is ? You are…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Salvation in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 2 months ago
Nick….Why don't you recognize all the scripture that show God will Have Mercy on All and many show he will, He has concluded all under SIN that He Might have Mercy on ALL. what part of ALL you don't understand or is Mercy you don't understand.do you think you are the only luck one that gets mercy and no one else does are you so self centered to…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Value of the Sacrifice in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 2 months ago
Nick..it say all the house of Israel shall be saved, And if God was not going to save Man kind then why would there be a second resurrection then . So he can through them all into a literal burning HelL fire and watch His creation burn and scream out into all eternity. You deliberately neglect all the scripture that shows God will have mercy on…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Christophanies in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 2 months ago
WJ….when the receive spirit they received what then, was it not the ability to KNOW truth, is that not what the spirit of truth is the Intellect to know truth. and when God reveals some thing to a person is that not an intellect of some kind. I know what you are saying that the Spirit is no Just that but it doesn't exclude that if all Spirit…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Intellect in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 2 months ago
Wj…..Show me a scripture that shows intellect is separate from Spirit then, if we believe Jesus who said the Words (ARE) Spirit then they (ARE) Spirit then, and show me were a (WORD) is not the expression of intellect, and i will believe you.WJ…we may not be alike on a lot of things but it does my heart good to know you believe in the ultimate…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Salvation in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 2 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 07 2008,17:08)Hi GB, Did you think God saying He would have mercy on all meant that He would give all eternal salvation? He did not say that so is it wise to put words into His mouth?Nick… so God will have mercy on you but the hell with the rest, I have quoted you many scriptures that show God will and desires and His…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Value of the Sacrifice in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 2 months ago
Nick….If you believe that God is no respecter of persons as it says he is, then you would understand, the ones who are not now the elect, will later be at the second resurrection, their mind will be opened and they will repent and be saved YET AS BY FIRE, God has blinded them for now Just as it says, It even says the whole house of Israel shall…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years, 2 months ago
Nick……..I just did, now show us where it isn't intellect. You Just want to be contrary it has nothing to do with truth at all. If you don't know what word mean the that not our fault it you problem. Look up what a word is, that should give you a clue.
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The carnal mind in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years, 2 months ago
Nick…No man who is born of the Spirit of God will continue to walk in carnal ways because the spirit will convict Him of his errors and the GRACE of GOD will drive Him to repentance. Your inference that i believe in magic is an out right lie, And your are right you do seem to be ignorant of what the word of God says, you appear to still be on…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Satan in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years, 2 months ago
Nick…> what is written is not the problem, it your interpretations that are the problem. You only look at one scripture and draw your conclusions. You remind me of the saying < You can't see the forest because of the trees. You seem to be blinded by the way you view scripture. Remember it the (SUM) of God's word thats truth Nick, not just one…[Read more]
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