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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years, 2 months ago

    NICK…..WOULDN’T IT BE BETTER FOR YOU TO SHOW US WHERE A SCRIPTURE SAY IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH OUR INTELLECTS? SEENING YOU BELIEVE SPIRITS HAVE NO INTELLECTS, AND DOES NOT SUPPLY US WITH AND GIVES US T KNOWLEDGE and UNDERSTANDING? YOU HAVE NEVER SAID TO MY RECALL, WHAT YOU ACTUALLY BELIEVE A SPIRIT REALLY IS. WHY NOT ENLIGHTEN US? WHAT DO…[Read more]

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    T8… THE ARK SETTLED ON MOUNTAINS OR HILLS OF ARARAT AND WATER SEEKS IT OWN LEVEL, SO BY TAKING THE HIGHTH OF MOUNT ARATE WOULD GIVE A FAIR IDEA OF ITS COVERAGE OF THE EARTH RIGHT? BUT I AM NOT TO SURE THE ARK DID SETTLE ON THE TOP OF IT, MAYBE IT WAS JUST SOME WHERE ON THE SIDE OF IT, BECAUSE THE DOVE BROUGHT BACK A OLIVE LEAF, AND I DO NOT…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years, 2 months ago

    NICK…..Do you need me to post all those scriptures for you, i can if you like. none of what i said was made up Nick.

    John 14:16-18, John 15:26, John 14:23-27, John 16:13-15, JOHN 20:21-23, 1 Titus 1:2, 2 Titus 1:2, PUT THEM TOGETHER NICK, none of what i have said was made up brother.

    peace and love to you and yours. …….gene

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    T8…..YOU SIMPLY DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THE CHRISTO’S, CAME IN THE FLESH MAN JESUS, YOU BELIEVE JESUS WAS BORN A CHRISTO’S, THEREFORE YOU ARE A ANTICHRISTO’S. THAT IS WHAT JOHN WAS TALKING ABOUT, THOSE THAT ARE ANTICHRISTS ARE NOT THOSE AGAINST THE MAN JESUS, BUT AGAINST THE ANOINTING OR CHRISTO’S OF THE MAN JESUS, YOU ARE IN THAT GROUP OF PEOPLE,…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years, 2 months ago

    Terraricca. …The spirit of truth is just one of the seven spirits of GOD, it gives us and him the cognisity of truth. That is why the elect can not be decieved, it is also called the comforter, because knowing the truth gives comfort to those who have it, as well as peace. REMEMBER WHEN Jesus said “my peace give you” , when he sent the spirit of…[Read more]

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    To all….MUCH IS REAVEALED TO US in Rev 17:10 about the point and time and condition of world events in this sentence.

    REV 17:10….”And there are seven kings:, five are fallen, and one “is”, and the other is “not yet” come ; and when he comes,he must continue a short space”.

    HERE is my take on this, the seven kings represent all the…[Read more]

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    T8…..NICK, IS RIGHT, you are stuck in tradition. I know you say you are not a trinitarian, like TERRARICCA, but you both believe and teach much of what they believe, like the prexistence of JESUS, AND MANY OTHER FALSE TEACHINGS THEY ASCRIBE TO. Seek and ask for the SPIRIT OF TRUTH FROM GOD THE FATHER, perhaps by chance he will enlighten you…[Read more]

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    T8…..NICK, IS RIGHT, you are stuck in tradition. I know you say you are not a trinitarian, like TERRARICCA, but you both believe and teach much of what they believe, like the prexistence of JESUS, AND MAY OTHER FALSE TEACHINGS THEY ASCRIBE TO. Seek and ask for the SPIRIT OF TRUTH FROM GOD THE FATHER, perhaps by chance he will enlighten you…[Read more]

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    NICK….You said wrether or not the spirit is embodied in servant angels or a person is not important. I DISAGREE, it very important what type or kind of spirits are in a person, because it is by these spirits the thinking of the mind is greatly effected. Aren’t we told to try the spirits to see if they are of God or not. NICK i still do not…[Read more]

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    NICK….YOU have failed to produce a single scripture that says angels “are” spirits, of anykind. you are right about symbolic language used in revelations. but your interpretations do not fit scriptures, for instance the seven lamps of fire, which are the seven spirits of God, are seven destinct spirits of GOD, WHICH HE USES TO “JUDGE” THE…[Read more]

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    NICK….YOU have failed to produce a single scripture that says angels “are” spirits, of anykind. you are right about symbolic language used in revelations. but your interpretations do not fit scriptures, for instance the seven lamps of fire, which are the seven spirits of God, are seven destinct spirits of GOD, WHICH HE USES TO “JUDGE” THE…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years, 2 months ago

    T8…..YOU brought JOHN HAVING THE SIRIT WHILE STILLIN HIS MOTHER WOMB, THAT IS TRUE, JESUS ALSO SAID, THERE WAS NO MAN BORN OF A WOMEN GREATER THE HIM, DID THAT INCLUDE HIM?, AFTER ALL HE WAS A HUMAN BORN BEING, RIGHT? SO WHEN DID JESUS BECOME GREATER THEN JOHN?, WAS IT NOT AFTER HIS ANOINTING, whenhe was reborn WITH the SPIRIT of GOD, EVEN THE…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years, 2 months ago

    T8…..YOU brought JOHN HAVING THE SIRIT WHILE STILLIN HIS MOTHER WOMB, THAT IS TRUE, JESUS SAID THERE WAS NOMAN BORN OF A WOMEN GREATER THE HIM, DID THAT INCLUDE HIM?, AFTER ALL HE WAS A HUMAN BORN BEING, RIGHT? SO WHEN DID JESUSBECOME GREATER THEN JOHN?, WAS IT NOT AT HIS ANOINTING, OF THE FULLNESS OF GOD’S SPIRIT AT THE JORDAN, WHEN HE WAS…[Read more]

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    T8….FIRST OF ALL, NICK IS SAYING, THERE IS ONLY “ONE” SPIRIT, I AM SAYING THERE ARE MANY SPIRITS, HE IS ALSO SAYING, WHERE SCRIPTURE SAYS THE SEVEN SPIRITS OF GOD MENTIONED IN REVELATIONS, IN THEEE PLACES ARE THE SEVEN ANGELS OF GOD.

    ALSO YOU ARE MISQUOTING SCRIPTURE, HEBREWS IS SAYING, GOD MAKES HIS ANGEL’S SPIRITS AND SENDS THEM OUT TO…[Read more]

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    NICK…..No where does that say that there is “only” one spirit that exists, even though it is by the one and same spirit we are all in christ. AND NON OF THAT SAYS THAT THE SEVEN SPIRITS OF GOD “ARE” ANGELS OF ANYKIND. Again youmust showfroms ripture thatthose sevenspirits of God are a tually angels. You have no scriptural support for saying that…[Read more]

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    NICK….ALIGN A SINGLE SCRIPTURE THAT SAYS SPIRITS “ARE” ANGELS. NOT A SINGLE SCRIPTURE YOU AS ME TO READ SAYS ANGELS ARE SPIRITS. The ball is in your court. please address the issue, stop skirting it brother.

    peace and love to you and yours. ……..gene

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    NICK…..ARE YOU SAYING THE SCRIPTURES I POSTED IS CHEAP TALK? I HAVE READ THOSE SCRIPTURES YOU ASK ME, AND NOT ONE SAYS SPIRITS “ARE” ANGELS Nick. PLEASE PRESENT SCRIPTURES THAT SAYS “ANGELS “ARE” SPIRITS. IF YOU CAN’T, THEN I MUST CONCLUDE YOUR “ASSUMPTIONS” ARE NOT BASED ON SCRIPTRUAL FACTS, BROTHER.

    peace and love to you and yours. …….gene

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    NICK…..ARE YOU SAYING THE SCRIPTURES I POSTED IS CHEAP TALK? I HAVE READ THOSE SCRIPTURES AND NOT ONE SAYS SPIRITS “ARE” ANGELS Nick. PLEASE PRESENT SCRIPTURES THAT SAYS “ANGELS “ARE” SPIRITS. IF YOU CAN’T THEN I MUST CONCLUDE YOUR “ASSUMPTIONS” ARE NOT BASED ON SCRIPTRUAL FACTS, BROTHER.

    peace and love to you and yours. …….gene

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    TERRARICCA. …Where did Jesus ever say, look what “Ì” DO? he said, if they did not believe him, “believe in the mircales”, he never said “he” did those mircales now did he? Again you change scriptures to meet you false teachings.

    IF you were of the truth Pierre you would understand the thing we are telling you, but you have hardened your…[Read more]

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    NICK….Consider this, JESUS HAS THE SEVEN SPIRITS OF GOD, along with the seven horns (powers) that go with them.

    REV 5:6 “and I beheld, and lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and SEVEN EYES, WHICH “ARE” THE SEVEN SPIRITS OF GOD, sent forth…[Read more]

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