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    Miia…..Your right we do sometimes get into endless debates, but i think we do also learn things from each also, as long as we maintain love for each other, thats what is really important, IMO. WE NOW ONLY SEE IN PART, BUT IN TIME TO COME, WE WILL SEE CLEARLY.

    Peace and love to you and yours. ……….gene

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    Nick….Satan has been used by God FROM the beginning to bring about God’s purposes from the get go, He was not acidently put in the garden to tempt Eve, that was all planned by God from the start, He used Satan as a “catilist” to speed up the process to shorten the time of “His” desired out come. Even as He uses him now to forward His PURPOSE TO…[Read more]

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    Nick….SO IF NOT TO TEACH US “all” SOMETHING, then why even have the despensation of, THE MILLENNIAL REGIN OF JESUS AND THE SAINTS FOR? Does God the Father do things void of reason or purpose? “Know you not you shall “all” be “taught” by God”, said Jesus, there is not a single thing ever done by God the Father that does not teach brother. Who is…[Read more]

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    Jodi….I have came to the same conclusion concerning Job. It was God the Father that took premptive action against Job, that can be determine, because it was GOD WHO BROUGHT UP JOB IN THE FIRST PLACE. It was all needful to deliever Job from potential problems growing in his character that could have destoryed him in the future.

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    Nick….Haven’t you read , we were called and chosen even before the foundation of the earth, just as OUR brother was also. The Father had it all in mind before it was ever created, or haven’t you read, “they were yours and thou have giveth them to me”, our brother said to our Father?.

    Peace and love to you and yours. …….gene

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    Nick….Sorry, i disagree with part of what you wrote, God the Father knew all along what was going to happen and he created to happen exactly as it has happened. You seem to sell God our Father’s foreknowledge and abilities short brother. The purposes of God stands just as it was designed to and will continue as he has planded it, before it was…[Read more]

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    Nick, scripture can be taken out of context, yes it is true a man is tempted from himself, but who made the man the way he is? If there was no sexual desire within a man, there would be no fornication, as it says” all sin is without the body (another words the body is not driving those sins) except for fornication, and i would also say drug…[Read more]

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    Nick….You need to go reread Job, it was Go who brought up Job to Satan , he used Satan to do what he wanted to be done to Job, and how do you say God is not involved?

    Why does scripture say that God offered his Son for the sins of the world, if he had no involvement in it. Scripture says God knows the end from the beginning, did not God put…[Read more]

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    Miia….Very well said, nothing is perfected in fear, for fear has torment, and love cast out fear.

    Peace and love to you and yours. …….gene

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    Jodi….I read once that the lords prayer ackually says, that the Father keeps us from being tempted and thereby delivering us from evil. Have you ever heard that? I don’t think you and Nick are that far apart, both you and him have good points IMO

    Peace and love to you and yours. ……gene

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    Nick….Why do you say God has no involvement, was he not involved in Job’s case? And in the case of Sawl, and all mankind. I think God the Father is fully involved in everything taking place in and on this earth.

    Peace and love to you and yours. …….gene

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    Nick….AMEN to that. While we live there is still hope. God the Father loves us ALL and promised, to fogive us “AND” cleanse us from “ALL” sin. IF WE CONFESS OUR SINS TO HIM.

    Peace and love to you and yours…….gene

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    Jodi…..Do you believe it was JESUS who was guiding the Isrealites in the wilderness? Or was it the cristo’s , the anointing spirit of God the Father guiding them?

    Jesus is not the anointing spirit, he is the one who recieved that anointibg at the Jordan river, is the way i see it.

    Peace and love to you and yours. ……..gene

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    To all…..Spirit is quantified, much like faith, some have more some less. Jesus said this, “how much more will the Father given them of the spirit that ask. We all need to ask the Father for it. The spirit is essential in our growth in love and understanding of the truth.

    Peace and love to you all. …….gene

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 7 years, 3 months ago

    Nick….Very well put brother. My hope is that all come to understand this, that God was “in” Jesus reconciling the world to himself. When God the Father sends his spirit into us we also become SONS AND DAUGHTERS OF THE LIVING GOD, WHO IS OUR HEAVENLY FATHER AND JESUS’ FATHER OUR GOD AND, JESUS’ GOD.

    Blessed are all who understand this.

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    @kerwin Kerwin…..Me and Nick are back on heaven net, we miss your imputed brother. Come and Goin us.
    Peace and love to you and yours………gene

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    Dav1d…Welcome……The reformation did not change any of the basic tenants of the Catholic church, and now they even consider protestants as their daughter churches. They still believe and preach the trinity, and many other pagan teachings, all signs of the apostate churches are there.. All the history of both churches clearly shows they are…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 7 years, 3 months ago

    Amem, Miia….Jesus said, “you shall “all” be taught of (by) God.”

    John 6:45….It is written in the prophets, And they shall be “ALL” taught of (by) God. Every man therefore that has heard, and has learned of (From) the Father, comes unto me.

    Peace and love to you and yours. ……..gene

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    Edj…..please show scriptures that say Jesus was acting as a priest at the age of twelve. BEIBG ABOUT YOUR Fathers business does not make you a PRIEST. YOU are forcing the text to say what it does not say. Not that it is wrong to have an opinion, but you should say it is just your opinion and may not be necessarily true.

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 7 years, 3 months ago

    Miia…Yes your example is good , much like a single television station can be connected to nearly all at one time, so is the spirit of God. JUST AS IT SAYS, “THAT GOD MAY BE “IN” ALL AND “THROUGH” ALL”, That is all done by his Spirit. The spirit is our connection with the Father, and can and does teach us all . Just as it say , God who is Spirit…[Read more]

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