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GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years ago
T8….What Jodi said is apsolutely right, what stops you from seening that? Is it not your preconcieved idea that Jesus existed before his birth on this earth. Me and Jodi are in full agreement on this, and i believe Nick is also. Until you come to see Jesus as a “perfected” human being, you haven’t even truly begun to see the truth brother. Jesus…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years ago
Mike…Your wrong about me, because i am open to any “real” proof of a Flat Earth, but t h e problem is you have produced none. When you guys reject all proofs that anyone can obtain easely, the mathematical equations and tons of other proofs, as T8, LU. MYSELF, and others, have shown you clearly, what else can i conclude, but that you guys are…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years ago
Nick…what you are accusing Jodi of, is exactly what you are doing, you force the text to fit your false understandings. You are in away like Mike who rejects truth because you are already predesposed to believe a different way.
Jesus was clearly talking to the man Peter as i and Jodi brought out, and he told the deciples basically that, if…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years ago
NICK….WHEN Jesus said to the Pharisies they were childern of the devil, was he lying? Was something causing them to saying what they were saying, as you supose in the case of Peter, you seem unable to reconize PETER WAS INDEED A SATAN, (advasary) of Jesus when (He) said what he said. Just as the Pharisies were actually childern of the devil OR…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years ago
Mike… If you are “truly” seeking truth, you can’t if you have a preconcieved mentality that is polarised in a definate deriction. You will simple reject sound evidence that is contrary to you preconcieve thoughts. Another word you are not in the middle unbiased seekibg truth, so no matter how much truth is given from the opposite side you will…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years ago
Nick…the problem is your not getting it, all those who are dead are dead, they are raised back to life at the resurection. That is plainly written in your bible.
You are now telling us that we can’t believe the old testement, that also is not true, what did Paul tell the Berean’s to do when they heard various teachings , did he not say that,…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years ago
Nick…whats to understand, when scripture says, clearly what happens when a person dies, i am not changing scripture to meet my opinions, just quoting It, and that seems to offend you.
I am not denying the existence of a Satan, i do disagree with you on some of your views about him, which to me is more pagan in concept then scripture. I also ask…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 8 years ago
T8….Have you ever considered the the words “two day”, is not nessarely refering to a twenty for hour period, but perhaps a much longer time period, which include events accoring over that time period.
Here is an example, Jesus told the thief on the cross “i tell you this day you shall be with me in paradise “, so people believe the the thief…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years ago
Nick….IT’S THE INTERPUTATIONS THAT ARE TRUE , THE PARABLES are alagories or metaphorically language, they were never made to be taken litteral. They need to be interpreted properly, or you can come up with all kinds of different conclusion, like you believing when a man dies he goes to a place of torment, you use that to support your false…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Before Abraham I AM in the forum Scriptural Teachings 8 years ago
TC…You are right the Spirit is in our minds, and does guide our thoughts, and reaveals the truth to us in our minds, it give us the intellectual capacity to “know” the truth when we hear it.
Peace and love to you and yours. …..gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years ago
Nick….you are wrong, when a person dies they are truly dead, and never again will live, unless God recreates them, from the dust of the earth again and adds the breath of life back into them again. Your concept of a person still alive after death is a false pagan teaching, drives from the false the of plato, Aristotle and other Greek and…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Our Messiah strictly from the OT in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years ago
LU. ..wide is the way that leads to destruction and many go in threat, narrow is the way and straight is the gate that leds to life, and (FEW) there be that find it.
Why should JODI not say the same things, does the truth change?, should we cast away sound scriptures to conform to you “mystery religion” you trinitarians preach?
Peace and love…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Our Messiah strictly from the OT in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years ago
Jodi…another excellent post, sis. I hope everyone here truly reads it and benefits by it, it is the truth.
Peace and love to you and yours. ….gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years ago
T8…Jesus was not born a Christo’s, he became one. That was his destiny, but it didn’t happen till it happened, He Also was born the savior of the world but that also did not happen till he died for the sin of the world. You getting the horse ahead of the cart. Show us one person Jesus saved before his death on the tree or cross. The payment had…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years ago
Anthony, we are in agreement on this, everything about us is presereved, even every hair of our heads are numbered, for a future resurection, “that will witiness the redemption of our bodies”, just as Paul said. Jesus was truly dead when he was crucified, for three days and three nights. He had to be resructed by God, or he still would be dead.…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years ago
Nick…A human soul is simply a body with t h e breath of life in it, nothing more nothing less. Unless you attain unto the resurection you are gone forever. Life does not go on after death, as pagan religions believe.
I tell you if God the Father didn’t raise Jesus from the grave he still would be dead. Why do you even think the resurection from…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years ago
Nick..NO, Jodi is right, when you die your soul no longer exists, you are truly dead, and will remain that way untill you are resurected, just as Jesus was. If God were to have left JESUS BODY in the grave he still to this day would be dead. “The dead know nothing”. It is apsolutely crucial if we die, we attain to the resurection, that will…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Our Messiah strictly from the OT in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years ago
To All… sorry for posting from the NEW TESTEMENT again, but to me both say the same thing. Confusion comes when people try to make them different. While there is somethings different, but not about GOD. JUST the covenants are different. The old testement says over and over there is only (ONE) GOD. GOD SAYS “CLEARLY”, “there is (NO) God besides…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Our Messiah strictly from the OT in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years ago
To all, Jesus said, and this is eternal life, that they might know “YOU”, (THE “ONLY” TRUE GOD), and Jesus the anointed, whom (YOU) have sent.
What part of (ONLY) do you people not understand?
Thou shall have (NO OTHER GOD BESIDES ME), you shall make (NO) “IMAGE” of me in heaven above or earth beneath.
What part of (NO OTHER GOD BESIDES ME)…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years ago
Anthony….That scripture was given to the King of Judah as a sign that GOD WAS WITH THEM, read the narative, it is also applied to JESUS, and indeed GOD WAS with Jesus, and through Jesus with us. Remember Anthony God is Spirit, if he is in you he is also present to your friends and family by being in you. The same applies to Jesus, GOD was “in”…[Read more]
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