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GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 10 months ago
Nick….what this mean to you,
Rom 11:32….For God has concluded them “ALL” in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.
And again …1 Jn 2:2…And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours “ONLY”, but the sins of the “whole world”.
Nick you say “opertunity” as if it is up to man to save himself, but scripture say different,…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 11 months ago
Nick…So to you GOD IS A FAILURE, IS UNABLE TO SAVE HIS CREATION, if GOD SAYS he is NOT WILLING ANY PARISH, He still is not able to save all.
You are preaching a form of “free will” salvation based on ones own works, as the world preaches, you are deminishing not only GOD THE FATHERS POWER, but his will and his ability to do what he says…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 11 months ago
Anthony, yes GOD’S PLAN IS TO SAVE ALL MANKIND, Some are saved by the blood of Jesus , others by fire (intense judgements) later, but saved none the less. By faith given us by God the FATHER, WE ARE BEING DELIVERED, THROUGH MANY MANIFOLD TRIALS AND TEMPTATIONS, That God our heavenly Father puts on us to cleans us from our sins, because just as it…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 11 months ago
Nick….True, Good advice, you need to take it and apply it to yourself, for a change. Every tree is known by it’s fruit, “you” either make the tree good and it’s fruit good , or corrupt and it’s fruit corrupt.
Peace and love to you and yours. ……gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Is Hell eternal? in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 11 months ago
Allen Finch……welcome to the site
Peace and love to you and yours. ……gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 11 months ago
Nick…You sit in your high tower you have made for yourself, shooting firey darts at the brethern, trying to make “yourself” out to be a man of truth, while others are not, who made you a judge over God’s heritage, have you not read,
Luk 17:1-2 …. Then said he unto the deciples, “It is impossible but that offences will come: but woe unto him…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 11 months ago
Nick….Those who have ears to hear, hear the spirit of truth, so where does that leave you?, would be the better question.
Peace and love to you and yours. ……gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 11 months ago
Jodi and Anthony….great posts, keep up the good work.
Peace and love to you and yours ……gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 11 months ago
Anthony….ALL WILL’S are influenced by something, therefore they are not “free”, all chose whats most influencing them the most. The term “freewill” is an OXYMORON.
BECAUSE no such thing exists. We are “free” to do what is influencing us, which causes us to chose those desires of ours, but that does not mean our minds are free, but are held…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 11 months ago
TC….spirits have no body. Tell us what your spirit “BODY” looks like if you can.
Jodi is right and has proved it and so did Anthony, you seem to be caught up in a form of “mystery religion” like the platoian Greeks who also taught of a person still living after death without a resurection of a actual body.
Jesus plainly to us his resurected…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 11 months ago
Anthony, this subject has been beat to death, those who get it, get it, those who don’t just don’t, you have done a good Job clearly explaining it, as Jodi and others. TO ME IT IS CLEAR THE WHEN Paul said, “it” is sown in weakness “it” is raised in power, “it” is sown a natural body “it” is raised a spritual body. The term “it” never changed…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 11 months ago
Anthony. …AMEN BROTHER.
Peace and love to you and yours. ….gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Second Thesalonians explained in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 11 months ago
Brought forward for Anthony
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Second Thesalonians explained in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 11 months ago
Anthony. …please read all five pages of this thread i started and give my your feed back.
Overall, i believe there is no “real” man of sin, but it is a false “image” of Jesus being a God. He is the “only” human being who has taken his seat in the true temple of God, and is being worshipped as a true God, This false “image” of him was starting…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 11 months ago
Anthony. ..I believe Mr. MARTIAN HAS DESCRIBED the parable of the richman and Lazarus correctly. I was in the same church as he wasm the WWCG 40 years ago, he was a very good teacher then, i left that church about the same time he did.
Don’t get discouraged by Nick, he wants us to belive he has spritual understandings and yet he denies so much…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 11 months ago
Anthony. …AMEN BROTHER, me and Jodi, and others have been trying to tell NICK that for years now. His views on life after a person dies is completely wrong, he takes scriptures out of context, like the parable of the rich man, and others, while rejecting all the clearly written scriptures of what a soul is as well as what scripture says about…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 11 months ago
Nick….Yes and the spirit abiding that seed that is buried rasies up the exaxt same body it was in. You deny so many scriptures in your false views.
Rom 8:11…But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also “quicken” (bring to life), your mortal “BODIES” by his Spirit…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 11 months ago
JODI and Anthony, right on. The pagan teaching of still living after we die is false, we do not return to life again untill the resurection, that will witness the redemption of OUR BODIES, just as scripture says. Many force our text to meet their own desires, but God is not mocked and his words abide still, “the soul that sins it shall die”, all…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 11 months ago
Nick….Seeds reproduces the “exact” kind of plant they came from, the plants DNA is perfectly perserved by it’s seed. Just as our is with the spirit of God, the “exact” same kind of being is resurected. Therefore every hair in our head is numbered, why number anything if it is all done away with?
To each seed God gave it a body of it’s own,…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 11 months ago
TC….There has not been any resurection taken place but Jesus, the rest of the chosen raise to meet the lord at his comming. That is the firstfurits, of them that sleep the sleep of death.
Anthony has it right brother.
Peace and love to you and yours. ……gene
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