• Profile picture of GeneBalthrop

    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 7 years, 10 months ago

    Anthony….If your post’s don’t agree with the scriptures I posted of Hebrews 2:6-11,  there’s no reason anyone should believe them.

    Peace and love to you and yours. ……gene

  • Profile picture of GeneBalthrop

    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 7 years, 10 months ago

    Anthony  moving Jesus away from our human likeness to him is exactly what all antichrists do. You seem to think human are born sinners,  that is completely wrong,  be become sinners a child becomes a sinner,  when the effects of this world overtakes him, “remember what the apostle John said, ” for all that is in the world, the lust of the eyes and…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of GeneBalthrop

    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 7 years, 10 months ago

    Jodi….right on, Edj has never understood that, a will is the product of what is influencing  it the most.  God does give us freedom to excercise our “influenced” wills, but there is nothing free about the will “itself”.

    The term “FREEWILL” is indeed a OXYMORON., because no such thing exists.

     

    Peace and love to you and yours. .…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of GeneBalthrop

    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 7 years, 10 months ago

    Anthony….If you can’t see what we are saying, you simply are not yet born of the spirit of truth, and have fallen for the lies of fallen Christanity. Those born of the spirit know the sound of the truth, by the  spirit of God that abides “in” them.  Those of the spirit of truth, take comfort by the truth that is “in” thme , the very same s…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of GeneBalthrop

    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 7 years, 10 months ago

    TWW….You have descredit scripture by changing their meanings to something else,  calling straight forward scriptures   edioms, to force the text to fit your  own understandings of them as many do.  You deny that GOD IS THE POTTER AND WE THE CLAY,  You preach “freewill” a salvation of “self works” which are not scriptural at all.  Again like o…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of GeneBalthrop

    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 7 years, 10 months ago

    Anthony…..Your belief of Jesus not being an anoited human being,  a flesh man is exactly what tbe apostle JOHN WAS TALKING ABOUT WHEN HE COINED THE PHRASE  “Antichrist” or anti-anointed human being. Who was the flesh and blood man Jesus. You have fallen for the big lie about him.

    REMEMBER Jesus said,”many” will come in my name saying I am,  an…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of GeneBalthrop

    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 7 years, 10 months ago

    TWW….YOU DID NOT SAY THAT OUT OF A “FREEWILL”, YOU RESPONDED THAT WAY BECAUSE THAT’S WHAT WAS INFLUENCING YOU THE MOST. “FREEWILL” IS AN OXYMORON. NO SUCH THEN EXISTS, OR IT SIMPLY WOULD NOT BE A WILL, NOW WOULD IT? We are not robots, but we certanily speak and act by forces driving within us, forces that have captivate our minds, some of which…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of GeneBalthrop

    Mike….It’s amazing how falsehood can grow in the mind of a person, when they start down a path of deception. I have another frind that started down the path of “conspiracy theories ” and it’s amazing what the mind can do. Indeed the words of Jesus are true, “the last state of that person is worse then the first”. My hope for you is that God…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of GeneBalthrop

    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 7 years, 10 months ago

    Jodi….God has blessed you with the ability to expound the scriptures clearly, putting scriptures together rightly is a blessing to us all, it delights my soul to read scriptures so clearly ptesented.
    It’s clearly obvious, the spirit of God, which is in you, is guiding you, and those of the spirit can see it sis. Keep up the good work.

    Peace and…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of GeneBalthrop

    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 7 years, 10 months ago

    TWW….if there were such a thing as a “truly” will that was free, then no one not even God could predict it’s out come, all will are captivate and driven, the term “freewill” is a Oxymoron. Everything works by design and follows it’s designed out come. That is why God can predict out come, of people.
    You did not “freely” chose to believe in God,…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of GeneBalthrop

    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 7 years, 10 months ago

    TWW….The word “freewill” is an OXYMORON, Because there is no such thing as a will that is free, or it simply would not be a will. A wills are the result of what is influencing it the most.

    If there existed su h a thing as a “freewill” then no prophesy could ever be given, no person could be prophesied to do anything either.

    Another point…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of GeneBalthrop

    Edj….Show scripture, to support your conclusions, islam did not even exist when those scriptures speaking of mystery bablyon were written, and the word bablyon simply means confusion, as present christainity is today, and doctrines like JESUS BEING A GOD AND HIM PREXISTING HIS BIRTH ON THIS EARTH, all lies and workings of Satan.

    Peace and love…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of GeneBalthrop

    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 7 years, 10 months ago

    A thony….you also can see God through the things created, because we are told, “the hidden atributes of God are “seem” by the things created”.

    God is spirit, he is not visible to the human eye, but is seen through the spirit and through things created.

    “For the kingdom of God comes not with observation, but is within you”, says Jesus. Jesus…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of GeneBalthrop

    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 7 years, 10 months ago

    Anthony….The Word GOD, does not identify a person, as you assume, it defines a “relationship” With a person, or object, a God to you can be and has been made out of anything that exists.

    The word “our” God applies to what ever is the “power” or EL, YOU LOOK TO AND TRUST IN.

    THE ORIGINAL PICTORIAL WORD FRO GOD , in the ancent Hebrew language…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of GeneBalthrop

    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 7 years, 10 months ago

    The words watchman….AMEN brother, you understand the truth, i also agree with you, and so does Jodi brother.

    Peace and love to you and yours. …..gene

  • Profile picture of GeneBalthrop

    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 7 years, 10 months ago

    Anthony, your not seening what God the Fathers intentions for mankind is in JESUS.

    MAYBE THIS WILL HELP….”What is man that you visit him, you have made him a (little) lower then the angels, you have crowned him with glory and honour, and has put “all” things under his feet, in that he says “ALL THINGS” there is “NOTHING” that is not under his…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of GeneBalthrop

    Anthony….All things have to fit, to understand a prophecy, does everything fit in your understanding of Paul’s prophetic words in 2 thes 2. Remember Paul said that mystery of iniquity was “ALREADY WORKING” in his time. Yes the GNOSTIC’S WERE ALREADY PREACHING JESUS AS A GOD IN PAULS DAY AS WELL A JOHN’S ALSO, They eventually left the church…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of GeneBalthrop

    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 7 years, 10 months ago

    Jodi….How true, how simple to understand, how perfectly right, for those who have eyes to see. Anyone who truly loves the truth should have no problem understanding that, we are in perfect agreement on this sis.

    Peace and love to you and yours. …..gene

  • Profile picture of GeneBalthrop

    Anthony….It doesn’t say “like” God but it say he (JESUS) takes his sits in the temple of God, being desplayed AND WORSHIPED AS GOD. Who is the only “man” who now sits beside THE TRUE GOD IN HEAVEN being desplayed as a GOD, and is being “worshiped” as a GOD IS IT NOT JESUS?. ALSO notice it say that iniquity was already working (“for the mystery…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of GeneBalthrop

    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 7 years, 10 months ago

    TC…YOU TEACH Jesus himself is the CHRISTO’, as many others do also, that is far from the truth as you can get, Jesus recieved the christo’s, into him, scripture plainly says it was GOD THE FATHER WHO RAISED JESUS FROM THE DEAD, JESUS EVEN SAID he was “dead” , but you believe he was not truly dead, making JESUS INTO A LIAR. because if he was…[Read more]

  • Load More

© 1999 - 2026 Heaven Net

Log in with your credentials

or    

Forgot your details?

Create Account