@Carnel,

Please enlighten all of us with your “super spiritual” thinking. Fix our “carnal” mindset and explain this verse, apparently my reading and comprehension skills aren’t as developed as yours.

If God isn’t the one who “reveals”; who does!

If God doesn’t know what is in darkness; who/what is in this particular darkness?

If lig…[Read more]

@Proclaimer,

Hate to break it to you, not one of those verses cited spoke of a “sacrificed” Messiah. Keep guessing. Start in chapter 41 and read through 55, then tell me who the “servant” is. If you don’t read this section of Isaiah, placing it in the context it was written, you’re understanding is limited to what you have been told it says. Yo…[Read more]

@Gene,

What you need to do is forget everything you have been taught about Isa 53; better yet, go verify everything you’ve been taught…is it truth?

For clarity, in what context are you speaking when you ask, “the nation of Israel, has also never done any of those things mentioned in Isa 53.” Are you speaking of verses 1-9 or 10-12? This quest…[Read more]

@Danny,

Danny, Danny, Danny, you still haven’t answered the question of where it states in the OT the Messiah was to die for the sins of mankind. Tell me, what’s more important; your religion or truth? Before you go completely religious on me, I was where you are about a month or so ago; that is until I started verifying what I have been told was…[Read more]

@Carmel,

YOU: “Now just explain WHAT DARKNESS IS in the above scriptures, especially THE LAST ONE, please”

ME: Because you wanted me to focus on Daniel 2:22, that is all I will speak on: “He reveals the deep and the hidden things; he knows what is in the darkness, and the light dwells with him.”

As a spiritual understanding, Carmel minded…[Read more]

@Gene,

Let’s say the meaning is “because of”; please find in the OT where the Messiah was to die “because of” the sins of mankind. Again, Paul did state “according to scripture”, this means it’s in the OT.

@Berean,

No one has provided a single passage that states what Paul said in I Cor 15. Every passage given as “proof” has either been read between the lines or taken out of context. Therefore nothing given! Truth isn’t what you believe or want it to be, truths are cold, hard facts. Paul made the claim, now where are the facts?

Isa 53 has been…[Read more]

@Gene,

I Cor 15:3,4 For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received, that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4 and that He was buried, and that He was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures.

I agree with you, individually we will be held accountable before God for our sins, our unrighteousness.…[Read more]

@ Carmel,

I am stunned by your response! None of what you said is supported by scripture. The only thing that comes to mind is, “get behind me Satan.” Then to claim you are a “true christian” as if not believing as you do somehow makes a “false Christian.”

It is no wonder the “church” is falling apart, you have created Jesus, a self proclaim…[Read more]

@Gene,

I realize what I have been writing lately goes against everything I have said in the past; but, what Paul said about the Messiah is huge by claiming “according to scripture” the Messiah was to die for the sins of mankind, be buried, and raised on the third day. Paul wasn’t saying when you read between lines of the OT you will find Jesus,…[Read more]

@Carmel,

Once again you are reading between the lines; when God said HE created man in HIS image and likeness, HE was only referring to Jesus?!? In what image and likeness was man created then, if not in God’s as He stated? Are you seriously claiming we were actually created in the image of Jesus?!? If this is the case, then Jesus is the God of t…[Read more]

@Gene,

King James has some serious issues! It is changing the tenses of verbs and thus changing the context of what is written, therefore changing scripture; thus making the translation a corrupt version. If you are going to rely on the “spirit of truth” to discern for you, you are making a huge mistake. The “spirit of truth” is what or whom? J…[Read more]

@Carmel,

I don’t know if you accidentally or intentionally made the connection; but, an astute observation in God’s relationship with the nation of Israel. To the nation of Israel and only the nation of Israel is God ever mentioned as being a “father” and I never proposed anything different. That is NOT to say a non-Jew cannot have a relatio…[Read more]

@Carmel,

What is this convoluted mess you speak?!?! God never referred to himself as a “Father”??!?! Is this a joke?!? Oh wait, God never referred to himself as the “TRUE” Father. Is it possible you can mince words any more than you do? I’m sorry, your falsehoods are getting tiresome!

God speaking in Jer 31:9 “They went forth with weeping, an…[Read more]

@Gene,

Sorry, have been extremely busy and haven’t had time to respond.

Agreed, Israel didn’t suffer for the “sins” of other nations, they suffered because they where disobedient to God, did their own thing, and were judged accordingly. However the words must be put into perspective of what is happening starting in Isa 52. Israel is being r…[Read more]

@Gene,

The basic definition of “our” is to show possession of or a belonging to and is used as a plural…going simple. So to say “our Father” simply means this “father” isn’t reserved to an individual, but belongs to all and is everyone’s “father.”

Now let’s take a look at Isa 53:1; “Who has believed our message?” Who is this “our” speaking? T…[Read more]

@Gene,

Give me a moment, your questions require a more in depth response and I will get to it.

Thanks for your patience.

@Danny,

You aren’t addressing the question of who is speaking starting in Isa 53:1; you’re running back to what you have been told and copy/pasting scripture without explanation.

Is Jesus the “suffering servant” in Isa 53, NO! I’ll try one more time, start reading in chapter 41 and who is this “servant”? If you don’t do this, we will keep going…[Read more]

@Carmel,

Are you unable to answer those questions yourself? Take your “spiritual” goggles off, read the text before you, and tell me what is being said. Interpret the chapter in your own words.

Funny how you say I am not ready for the truth; however, when the plain truth is presented, you reject it (who’s not ready?!?!). Reading Isa 53, placi…[Read more]

@Danny,

I’m starting feel like a broken record, who is speaking in Isa 53:1? The “our” in verse four is the same “our” in verse one; who is this “our”? What message was so unbelievable in verse one?