DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 2 years, 7 months ago
@Gene,
I seriously have no idea where you are going with this history lesson concerning Israel; both kingdoms where evil and subsequently dispersed (exiled). At the end of the age the Jewish people will be brought back to the land promised, united, and will be one people again.
What’s your point?
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 2 years, 7 months ago
@Gene,
Not sure where you’re quoting (references are key) when you said “God said to them He would send a sword after ten wherever they went.” The closest I could find was in Jeremiah 24; but, God was speaking of destroying King Zedekiah and those left in Judah after being exiled to Babylon. God wasn’t speaking of destroying all of Israel since H…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 2 years, 7 months ago
You: “Thinkers, like yourself, have got to commit intellectual suicide”
Me: So I am suppose to give up my skills of reasoning when it comes to understanding what is said in the NT, this characteristic that God implanted in me – which God also has because I am created in HIS image – and blindly follow the words of man?
You hit it last nig…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 2 years, 7 months ago
@Gene,
The verse posted again for reference:
Matt 10:23 “Whenever they persecute you in one place, flee to another. I tell you the truth, you will not finish going through all the towns of Israel before the Son of Man comes.”
You mention the House of Israel but not the House of Judah; this is the northern and southern kingdoms respectively. Yes…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 2 years, 7 months ago
And you still can’t answer a question; your inability to answer what I have asked makes your silence deafening.
All I have done is read words on a page and when the words don’t align, it creates questions. For you, it’s okay and you blindly accept them without question because someone told you it was “the spirit who wrote the scriptures…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 2 years, 7 months ago
How was Jesus a descendant of David when Jesus’ daddy was the spirit? Same question I asked Carmel and received some spiritualized nonsense for a response. When the OT explicitly states the Messiah was to be of the seed (zera) of David; what say you?
As one continues reading this Timothy passage, Paul states Jesus is risen from the dead…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 2 years, 7 months ago
All I offer are doubts?!? All I have are questions, start answering them!
Then you say to ask for wisdom, look in the mirror! Funny how those accusing others ignore their own advice. Wisdom is the one thing I ask for daily and God has been opening my eyes to the deception called christianity. God said he is our salvation, not that I have…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 2 years, 7 months ago
You: I have no wish to partake in your games of confusion as My God is not a God of confusion…
Me: Isn’t that precious as you pull out your God card, yet you will believe what you are told is truth without ever verifying what you have been told IS truth. I simply quoted what Jesus said and questioned it; you accuse me of playing g…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 2 years, 7 months ago
Why, why, why indeed; if only you could answer a question or two verses running away. How about you take a crack at answering what I asked Gene. Won’t hold my breath as you don’t like questions, you just like telling people what they should believe.
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 2 years, 7 months ago
In reference to post #944977, one word is all you need and that is “zera”; I have been over this word before and is a reference to descendants, one who is procreated, something produced after it’s own kind. This is the term used in the OT to reference who the Messiah will be, the seed of David. In other words in the lineage of David…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 2 years, 7 months ago
@Gene,
First verse, Jesus explicitly stated to those he was speaking to would never finish going through the towns of Israel before he returned. What are we to make of Jesus’ statement and why no response to this verse? What Jesus stated is a little hard to take in considering at the end of the book of Matthew Jesus says to them to go into all t…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 2 years, 7 months ago
@Gene,
Additionally,
You still haven’t explained why I need Jesus when God said to repent, turn, and you sin is remembered no more. When did God add now having to go “through HIS son” to be forgiven? You also haven’t addressed any question from post #944944
Have another verse(s) for you to explain Matt 10:23 “And whenever they persecute you in…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 2 years, 7 months ago
@Gene,
You: “Jesus’ “life”, was poured out “by God the Fathers Will”, to demonstrate, I say “DEMONSTRATE”, to us all, what kind of “life”, it takes to please God.”
Me: Explain what kind of “life” did Jesus demonstrate we are to live that is pleasing to God? If it’s just obedience, that’s nothing new – that’s OT. By obeying God’s commands…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 2 years, 8 months ago
If Jesus is conceived of the Holy Spirit, then he is not of the “seed” of David, and therefore is automatically disqualified as being the Messiah. Now what?
You: “NO MAN NO SPERM! GOD DOESN’T NEED THAT FILTHY SATANIC STUFF!”
Me: Are you saying God’s design and creation is filth!!??!?!?
Are you going to “Hail Mary full of grace”; ho…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 2 years, 8 months ago
@Gene,
First, no response to post #944944 directed to you? Would love to hear your thoughts on those questions.
Second, please enlighten me to the definition of “iniquities.” I was using words from two different translations.
Third, you keep saying Jesus isn’t required for the forgiveness of sin and you ask where did Jesus ever say this:…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 2 years, 8 months ago
Isa 59:2 doesn’t explain why I need a Messiah for salvation. This verse states it is sin/iniquity that separates us from God. Nowhere does it state because of this separation we need a Messiah to get back to God. God said to repent, turn from your wickedness, and your sin will be remember no more. Since sin will separate us from God, all…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 2 years, 8 months ago
you: “Such obvious contempt for God and His ways. yet he can post in the believer’s section?”
me: Obviously you don’t read the left side of your bible, I am simply repeating what is there. Since you are unable to answer questions, I will spare both of us the trouble and tell you to start reading the prophets.
I detect fear in your words a…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 2 years, 8 months ago
Oops, that previous post was meant for you not Danny.
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 2 years, 8 months ago
@Danny,
Can you show me in the OT where it says I must believe in the Messiah for salvation?
Better yet, explain how Jesus can be the Messiah since he was conceived of the spirit and NOT from the seed of David. This actually poses a problem, because either the spirit did conceive the child in Mary and therefore Jesus is NOT of the seed of David…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 2 years, 8 months ago
@Danny,
Apparently God is the one who has “denied the son”; I’m just reading God’s words in the OT.
So I guess I’m in the clear.
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