carmel replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 5 years, 11 months ago
Jesus is portrayed as the lamb of God,
Gene,
How on earth Jesus is the lamb of God, and NOT DIVINE?
IT IS OF GOD. NO?
All GOD’S THINGS ARE divine.
HE IS “THE WORD” OF GOD. Not the word of David.
If Jesus was only A SON OF DAVID, He wouldn’t be IN ANY WAY OF GOD!
In fact, He would have been more a son of Satan since David was in hell, the…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 5 years, 11 months ago
he was GOD the Father’s sacrifice for the sins of the world.
Gene,
We are justified by our own words!
Would you deny your own words?
If Jesus was GOD THE FATHER’S SACRIFICE, HOW ON EARTH HE WAS NOT DIVINE AS MUCH AS HE WAS HUMAN?
If Jesus was HAD A SPECK of earth he would have been satanic, and he would not have qualified as a RANSOM, as…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 5 years, 12 months ago
YOU: 27 Do not labor for the food which perishes, but for the food which endures to everlasting life, which the Son of Man will give you, because God the Father has set His seal on Him.”
What was that SEAL God the Father set on the Son of Man???
Jodi READ John 6:27Labour not for the FOOD which perisheth, but for that which endureth unto life eve…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 5 years, 12 months ago
the first human raised from the dead.
Jodi,
Are you in the position to explain in detail the above truth?
What actually happened to Jesus in order to be raised again back to life
BORN ANEW IN THE TRUTH, AS A HUMAN BEING IN ALL THINGS LIKE HIS BRETHREN?
IN THE AUTHENTIC SATANIC FLESH AND BLOOD SUBSTANCE, ADAM AFTER SIN, BUT MORE IN A P…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 5 years, 12 months ago
TC
We must not give up!
KEEP ON HAMMERING THEM FOR THE TRUTH
Peace and Love in Jesus Christ
carmel replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 5 years, 12 months ago
YOU: READ carefully Carmel,
John 3:34 For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him. 35 The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand.
Jodi, It’s your turn to READ carefully NOW!
Jodi, You produced two verses from the last paragrph in John 3:31:36 but in your bl…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 5 years, 12 months ago
Hi Jodi:
YOU: Hi Carmel,
Gene: the words I am telling you are “not my words”, but the words of him who sent me.
John 14:24 ….. The word which you hear, is “NOT” mine, but the Father’s which sent me.
YOU: Now can you see the difference, between the two?
ME: There is NO difference,
Now, Jodi, I RPEPAT what I said to Gene So: to my po…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 5 years, 12 months ago
John 14:24…He that loves me not keeps not my sayings: and the word which you hear, is “NOT” mine, but the Father’s which sent me.
Carmel , the liars are those who twist up scriptures to try to make them say what in fact they do not say.
Gene, Yes you are right that
the liars are those who twist up scriptures to try to make them say what in…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 5 years, 12 months ago
YOU: So you believe Jesus is God’s word himself right? Then what do you do with this scripture, ” the words I am telling you are “not my words”, but the words of him who sent me. Seems you have a problem to straighten out. JESUS denies the words he spoke are his, so how could he “himself” be the word of God?
Gene,
YOU: the words I am te…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years ago
So you believe Jesus is God’s word himself right? Then what do you do with this scripture, ” the words I am telling you are “not my words”, but the words of him who sent me. Seems you have a problem to straighten out. JESUS denies the words he spoke are his, so how could he “himself” be the word of God?
Gene,
the above scripture is corru…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years ago
YOU: Scripture tell us it was God who spoke to us by a son. Not that the son was the word of God ,
Gene,
Please respect scripture: NOT by A son! but
BY HIS SON
Hebrews 1:1 God, who, at sundry times and in divers manners, spoke in times past to the fathers by the prophets, last of all, 2In these days, hath spoken to us by his Son,
YOU: Not t…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years ago
Carmel…..scriptures clearly say, Jesus was anointed with the holy spirit at the Jordan river.
Gene,
Hereunder again are the four gospels, and there is no such word as ANOINTED in all four!
It is you, Jodi and all those like you who are twisting the scriptures and concluded that, since the dove descended on Jesus He was anointed.
Mark1:9 An…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years ago
Then what do you do with this scripture, ” the words I am telling you are “not my words”, but the words of him who sent me. Seems you have a problem to straighten out. JESUS denies the words he spoke are his, so how could he “himself” be the word of God?
Gene,
It seems quite clear that you didn’t read all my post at all, so here it is again…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years ago
Carmel……Jesus was not talking about where he came from, when he said , he was from above and they were from below, he was talking about what he was saying was from above, and what they were saying was from below. They spoke words as comming from below “earthly”, Jesus spoke words which were from above “heavenly”,
Carmel, Jesus knew exactly w…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years ago
JESUS is not a Son of God because he pre-existed as such, Jesus is the Son of God because he is the son of David
Jodi first and foremost Jesus is THE Son of God, then A son of David.
Thus He was THE Son of God ETERNALLY since God is eternal not because He was A Son of David.
David was made by “THE WORD” Jesus to be, the Son of Man to be. ALL I…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years ago
“None of them can by any means redeem his brother, nor give to God a ransom for him” (Psalms 49:7)
Edj,
The above is a good one!
“None of them can by any means redeem his brother,
The above confirms that Jesus though in all things like His brethren, HE IS NOT OF THE WORLD!
AN AUTHENTIC BROTHER! But only a brother in relation to:
“THE WORD”…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years ago
Did the man Jesus have a God that was the SAME as our God, yes, how do I know that, because he said so, “I am going to “my” God, and “your” God, “my ” father and “your” father “. Seems Jesus knew he wasn’t our God , nor our heavenly father either.
Gene,
read John20:17Jesus saith to her: Do not touch me, for I am not yet ascended to my Father. B…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years ago
Jesus received all things from God and by that he was great, …..
Jodi by the look of it, there’s a misunderstanding! Here it is again,
You said: Jesus received all things from God and by that he was great,
First and foremost Jesus was GREAT eternally
IN THE BOSOM OF THE FATHER
He lowered Himself through the process of creation, SLAIN LIKE A…[Read more]carmel replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years ago
Jesus received all things from God and by that he was great, not because he had a former self in him since he was born.
Jodi, you said: Jesus received all things from God and by that he was great,
Now read hereunder explain and ANSWER:
John 16:15 All things whatsoever the Father hath, are MINE. Therefore I said, that he shall receive of MINE, a…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years ago
Why don’t you start with addressing ALL the passages I gave that speak of Jesus being a son of David according to his flesh, according to the fruit of David’s loins,?
Jodi,
Why don’t you start with addressing ALL the passages I gave that speak of Jesus PRE-EXISTENCE, and being THE Son of GOD according to HIS SPIRIT, according to the fruit of TH…[Read more]
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