Worship God the Father only?

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Ed, (1)I know you are so full of wisdom, so let me ask you a simpler question.
You are a man, according to Paul there is a “spirit” in you; (2)where do you think that spirit lives in you; (3)under your skull? in your brain? in your heart? in your stomach, or do you sit on it?

Georg

Hi Georg,

1) Flesh and blood has not revealed that to you,
but my Father(HOLYSPIRIT) which is in heaven.

2) The Spirit gives us life and is located in the blood.
For the life of the flesh is in the blood. (Lev. 17:11)
The body returns to dust, and the spirit(in the blood)
returns to God who gave us our life here! (Eccl.12:6-7)

3) Since you seemed genuine in your question,
I felt I should explain to you fully rather
than simply saying all those places!

Witnessing to a worldwide audience in behalf of YHVH!
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14 / Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org (Rev.21:2-3)

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December 16, 2010 at 2:16 pm#229040

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Georg

Hi Georg,

1) Flesh and blood has not revealed that to you,
but my Father(HOLYSPIRIT) which is in heaven.

3) Since you seemed genuine in your question,
I felt I should explain to you fully rather
than simply saying all those places!

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Hi Georg,

Our “spirit” permeates every cell of our body, because our “spirit” is in our blood! …Do you agree?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

December 16, 2010 at 3:32 pm#229046

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Georg

Hi Georg,

1) Flesh and blood has not revealed that to you,
but my Father(HOLYSPIRIT) which is in heaven.

3) Since you seemed genuine in your question,
I felt I should explain to you fully rather
than simply saying all those places!

I said it before, and I say it again, you are a fake, (A)and will never answer a question; so let me ask you this.

(B) Can you call Satan a name that would make him mad?

(D) Can you say anything about Satan that would make him angry?

(E) Has not Satan used scripture in a perverted way?

(F) If Satan would get you angry, mad, upset, etc.; would he not have you right where he wanted you?

(G) Any way, think about this next time you shave.

Georg

Hi Georg,

'i am'(23) (Ezekiel 28:9) is a 'fake'(23) (Click Here)

A) I answered your question! Our “spirit” permeates every cell of our body,
because our “spirit” is in the (flesh's) blood! …Do you NOT agree?

B) If I never answer 'a question', then what makes you
think this question will now change anything?

C) No-one can control another's emotions!

D) Your question calls for speculation.

E) satan perverts Scripture.

F) Can't get me mad or angry! I eliminated 'anger' out of my life years ago! (Col.3:8 / James 1:20)
No weapon formed against me will prosper! (Isaiah 27:4-5) I killed the 'ego' long ago! (Matt.10:39)

G) Think about what? Your useless philosophy? (Col.2:8)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

December 16, 2010 at 9:51 pm#229064

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Georg

Hi Georg,

1) Flesh and blood has not revealed that to you,
but my Father(HOLYSPIRIT) which is in heaven.

3) Since you seemed genuine in your question,
I felt I should explain to you fully rather
than simply saying all those places!

bump for Georg

Bump for Ed

Hi Georg,

Our “spirit” permeates every cell of our body, because our “spirit” is in our blood! …Do you agree?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Ed, NO, I do not.

Georg

December 16, 2010 at 10:18 pm#229066

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Georg

Hi Georg,

1) Flesh and blood has not revealed that to you,
but my Father(HOLYSPIRIT) which is in heaven.

3) Since you seemed genuine in your question,
I felt I should explain to you fully rather
than simply saying all those places!

bump for Georg

Bump for Ed

Hi Georg,

Our “spirit” permeates every cell of our body, because our “spirit” is in our blood! …Do you agree?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Ed, NO, I do not.

Georg

edj

I do not agree either,

you have no idea ,of what the spirit is.

Pierre

December 18, 2010 at 12:47 am#229173

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Georg

Hi Georg,

1) Flesh and blood has not revealed that to you,
but my Father(HOLYSPIRIT) which is in heaven.

3) Since you seemed genuine in your question,
I felt I should explain to you fully rather
than simply saying all those places!

bump for Georg

Bump for Ed

Hi Georg,

Our “spirit” permeates every cell of our body, because our “spirit” is in our blood! …Do you agree?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

What is the difference between a physical human brain, and an animal brain; besides shape and size.
Can you tell by looking at the two lumps of flesh, which brain has, or did have, the “spirit”?
When a baby is born, how much information is in that brain? none, in fact the brain is not even fully developed.
When an animal is born it can stand within a half an hour, it knows where to find milk, it knows to lie very still when danger is approaching, within hours it can run almost as fast as the herd.
Why is that? Is that instinct, or is it preprogramming?
What is it that enables a baby, as it grows, to learn how to read and write, to plan and build, etc. Why can't an animal do those things? the difference is, we have a mind.
So, what is a “mind”? what is a spirit? how would you go about explaining something you can't see?
God has given us a mind, it is the image he has created us in because God has a mind also, his Mind is Holy, ours is not.
The brain itself stores information, the mind helps us to use that information, to make choices, good or bad.
You could say, the mind is like what the electricity is for the computer.
Yes the Spirit, God's Holy Spirit, gives us live, if we obey that spirit; but that “spirit” is not in the blood, the blood is the life of man, you shed that blood, and the man dies.
There is a spirit in man, but there is no spirit in a baby, that spirit/mind is acquired as the baby grows.
The “Spirit” that God gives us is his Holy Spirit, it returns to God when we die.

My advice to you is, get away from the numbers, and start paying attention to what the Bible says; especially when you try to quote ascripture.
You may be witnessing, but it is not the truth, and I doubt it is worldwide.

Georg

December 18, 2010 at 12:54 am#229177

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Hi Georg,

When does a baby receive it's spirit?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

December 18, 2010 at 1:05 am#229179

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Hi Georg,

When does a baby receive it's spirit?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

As it acquires knowledge.

Georg

December 18, 2010 at 2:52 am#229191

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Hi Georg,

When does a baby receive it's spirit?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

As it acquires knowledge.

Georg

Hi Georg,

So you're saying a baby receives it's spirit a little at a time?

Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

December 18, 2010 at 2:03 pm#229220

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Ed: You will have to misrepresent the truth better than that to turn the heads of truth seekers. I invite all to go back through what I have written and see that I have never ask anyone or anybody to embrace Tim Krafts new age philosophy. I don't even know what new age philosophy is unless you are calling the world renowned conversion of covenants, where the Old ceases to function and the New Testament comes forth in spiritual truth from God through Jesus the Christ. The actual changing of the covenants where there is a shedding of blood to seal and effectuate the new covenant. Is that what you are calling “new age” philosophy. It came direct from God! TK

Hi Tim,

I have posted this video (for you) about 'new age philosophy', remember?
You still have yet to explain just exactly how your philosophy differs?

Care to explain the differences for us?

Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Ed: You apparantly want to waste my time following what you have made lord of your beliefs. I have followed Jesus and the doctrines I have came from Jesus. If they are not from Jesus they will be burned up by the destructive fires that come from well meaning people that attack the word. I have no fear that the doctrines I have chosen are of God because I have never followed other mens doctrines. They must align with Gods words or they burn away. TK

Hi Tim,

NO; it seems to be your belief!
I very much would like you to explain
how your philosophy differs from the video!
Why won't you give us a speech of the differences?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Ed: YOU WOULDN'T LISTEN IF I DID!! TK

Hi Tim,

I'm all ears; Please explain the differences!

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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December 19, 2010 at 6:52 am#229293

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Hi Georg,

When does a baby receive it's spirit?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

As it acquires knowledge.

Georg

Hi Georg,

So you're saying a baby receives it's spirit a little at a time?

Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

You keep calling it spirit, are you not sure what a mind is?
What good is a “spirit”, when the brain is not even developed?
The mind/spirit develops on its own as the brain, and information grows. Humans are not born with a mind/spirit, we are born with the ability to develop a mind/spirit.
Why did Jesus say, God is a spirit, and those that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth? what is Jesus, and what are the angel? are they not spirits also?
God is spirit meaning, he is invisible, he is everywhere, and you don't have to make a show of worshiping him, you can worship him in your heart, in secret, in your home, or where ever, but, what is important is, is that you worship him in truth; if you don't have the truth you worship in vain.

Georg

December 19, 2010 at 2:15 pm#229307

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Hi Georg,

Do you believe abortion to be OK, early in the pregnancy,
before the baby's brain begins to develop? if not, why not?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

December 19, 2010 at 2:28 pm#229308

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As always, you have a strange way of switching subjects.
The development of brain has nothing to do with the beginning of life; life begins at conception, abortion any time there after is murder.

Georg

December 19, 2010 at 2:59 pm#229312

Participant

Hi Georg,

Just covering all the bases.

What's your view on Luke 1:15,
as it also relates to our discussion?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

December 30, 2010 at 10:57 pm#230582

Anonymous

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Hi People,

I can't see the woods for the trees in this thread.

Can someone tell me what “Worship” is?
I mean : “How are we to Worship”
: “Who we are to Worship”
: “Why we are to worship”?

The discussion seems to have lost it's way here…Do I think?

December 30, 2010 at 11:00 pm#230587

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Hi People,

I can't see the woods for the trees in this thread.

Can someone tell me what “Worship” is?
I mean : “How are we to Worship”
: “Who we are to Worship”
: “Why we are to worship”?

The discussion seems to have lost it's way here…Do I think?

hi A

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Hi,
This topic always causes a flood of opinions so perhaps we should look at it on it's own.

Jn 4.21
” Jesus said to her
'Woman, believe me an hour is coming when neither in this mountain, nor in Jerusalem, shall you WORSHIP THE FATHER.
You worship that which you do not know ;we worship that which we know;for salvation is from the Jews.
But an hour is coming, and now is , when the
TRUE WORSHIPPERS shall WORSHIP THE FATHER in spirit and truth;for such people THE FATHER SEEKS TO BE HIS WORSHIPPERS.
God is spirit;and those who WORSHIP HIM must worship in spirit and in truth'”

This is the teaching of Jesus about worship.
He says we should worship the Father

December 30, 2010 at 11:02 pm#230590

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hi A

Hi, If you read the Old Testament is there any doubt whom we should worship? No it is the Father.

Come full circle and look around. Churches advertising on the internet and on billboards;
“Come worship Jesus with us.”
Where do we see churches saying
“Come worship the Father with us? “

They do not seem to exist.
What has happened?
Is this what God wants?
Should the Father still be worshipped?
Should both be worshipped?
Should we worship the Spirit?
If so how and in what order?

Nothing in our teachings suggests that the worship has changed from God to the Son of God. Nothing teaches that the Son of God is to be worshipped. Where has this come from? Is it a fruit of trinity teaching that there are three that are one and equal? I am starting to think this is apostasy and evil. What do others think?

December 31, 2010 at 12:43 am#230607

Anonymous

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Hi PR,

Quote

Hi People,

I can't see the woods for the trees in this thread.

Can someone tell me what “Worship” is?
I mean : “How are we to Worship”
: “Who we are to Worship”
: “Why we are to worship”?

The discussion seems to have lost it's way here…Do I think?

So you/we can answer two of the three questions:
1) We are to Worship God the father alone.
2) God desires Mankind to worship him to show loyalty, discipline, piety, righteousness, wonder, glory, praise, honor, servitude and sacrifice of our soul to him and him alone

PR, Is that right?

But what of the third part: “How are we to Worship”…how do i know if I am worshipping GOD, or do I do the same to others:

what is UNIQUE in WORSHIP to God. Can you say, or anyone I don't close the question to you alone, sorry!

December 31, 2010 at 2:36 am#230620