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- June 1, 2006 at 1:38 am#14412NickHassanParticipant
Hi,
“Worship God”
the angel said to John.John did not ask if he meant Jesus though.
He knew what the angel meant.It is only men who have not been enlightened who propagate confusion.
June 2, 2006 at 2:04 am#14438NickHassanParticipantHi,
Matt 4.10
“Then Jesus said to him
'Begone Satan!. For it is written
'You shall worship the Lord your God, and serve Him only'”So Jesus, quoting scripture, says we should worship God alone. it was a perfect time to say he was God and men should worship him. He told the Jews in Jn 8.54 that the Father was their God and here he shows that nothing has changed under the New Covenant. God is still the same God and he is the son of God. God is to be worshiped.
Satan, the real adversary of God, did not argue with scripture, as men continue to do.
June 15, 2006 at 1:00 am#15051NickHassanParticipantThank you david,
Here is that thread.June 16, 2006 at 3:48 am#19675NickHassanParticipantHi,
Do you worship One God?
Or several deities?The One True God was in Christ, in the fulness of His Deity, reconciling the world to Himself. Jesus himself said true worshippers will worship the Father in spirit and truth. Should we not listen to him and worship the Father alone?
July 18, 2006 at 3:18 am#22342NickHassanParticipantHi,
Whom does scripture teach us to worship?August 13, 2006 at 5:50 am#24303NickHassanParticipantHi Oxy,
You may find interest here.September 2, 2006 at 3:24 am#27202NickHassanParticipantTHis is topical again.
September 17, 2006 at 6:29 am#28386davidParticipantHi Mercy,
On page 14 of this thread, I list some reasons why the fact that the word proskyneo is used with reference to Jesus doesn't mean he should be worshipped.
That word has severl shades of meaning.Please consider what I wrote.
david
September 17, 2006 at 8:30 am#28390NickHassanParticipantQuite so david,
This is the instructions we have received from the Master about Whom we should worship.Jn 4
“21Jesus declared, “Believe me, woman, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem. 22You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews. 23Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks. 24God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth.”That should be sufficient information for us.
September 17, 2006 at 1:07 pm#28395MercyParticipantWell I think you make your point quite well. I concede this point, David, as scripture is the only authority.
It appears that in the original language the most faithful and accurate interpretation would read as we are to honor, submit, and kneel to Christ as we would a king. This makes alot of sense given that Christ is Lord of Lords and King of Kings.
However, in particular in Revelation, they certainly appear to be worshipping Jesus. Perhaps the word means “obeisance” yet their actions combined with their words seem like my modern interpretation of the english word worship.
I have always praised, thanked, honored, kneeled, lifted holy hands while loving Jesus. Is this then wrong? It seems to be exactly what the elders in heaven are doing.
Confusion over words and semantics. I have always thought I was worshipping Jesus but I guess I was giving him “obesiance”.
September 18, 2006 at 12:24 am#28454davidParticipantQuote I have always praised, thanked, honored, kneeled, lifted holy hands while loving Jesus. Is this then wrong?
One can do all these things without worshipping that person.September 18, 2006 at 2:08 am#28466davidParticipantQuote Perhaps the word means “obeisance” Quote I have always thought I was worshipping Jesus but I guess I was giving him “obesiance”.
Obeisance is the word most commonly used in my Bible.September 29, 2006 at 1:17 am#29533davidParticipantHi Casey. There's some discussion on Jesus being or not being worshipped on this thread.
September 29, 2006 at 1:19 am#29535davidParticipantQuote Hi Mercy,
On page 14 of this thread, I list some reasons why the fact that the word proskyneo is used with reference to Jesus doesn't mean he should be worshipped.
That word has severl shades of meaning.Please consider what I wrote.
Casey, you may come to the same conclusion Mercy did:
Quote Well I think you make your point quite well. I concede this point, David, as scripture is the only authority. It appears that in the original language the most faithful and accurate interpretation would read as we are to honor, submit, and kneel to Christ as we would a king. This makes alot of sense given that Christ is Lord of Lords and King of Kings.
September 29, 2006 at 6:23 pm#29632Frank4YAHWEHParticipantI believe that Yahshua is worthy of worship, but not as our Heavenly Father and Creator Yahweh.Worship
September 29, 2006 at 6:27 pm#29633NickHassanParticipantHi f4y,
Are you in Yashua?
Are you a branch of the vine?
Does the branch worship the vine
or the Gardener?October 3, 2006 at 7:51 pm#29973NickHassanParticipantHi,
Is 1.18 says that accepting worship is a sign one is God. Who would agree?October 3, 2006 at 8:55 pm#29979CubesParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 04 2006,01:51) Hi,
Is 1.18 says that accepting worship is a sign one is God. Who would agree?
I disagree.If that be the case, this week's nobel prize winners in medicine are God as well as countless others who have been honored for outstanding accomplishments. While I appreciate such accomplishments, it is with realization that they are creations of the Most High who alone is above all.
October 3, 2006 at 10:35 pm#29990NickHassanParticipantSure cubes,
Jesus told us Whom to worship in Jn 4
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21Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father.22Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.
23But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
24God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.'
and if he wanted to tell us it was himself as well why did he not do so?
BUT MEN SEEM TO PREFER THE TEACHINGS OF THEOLOGIANS
TO THE ONE THEY CALL
Lord, Lord…October 4, 2006 at 5:27 pm#30020CubesParticipantWhere in the scriptures is Jesus worshiped as (the Living Almighty) God?
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