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- April 23, 2014 at 2:57 pm#379136kerwinParticipant
Wakeup,
I have read nothing about spirit angels though there are spirits that stand before Jehovah.
Zechariah 6:5
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)5 And the angel answered and said unto me, These are the four spirits of the heavens, which go forth from standing before the Lord of all the earth.
April 23, 2014 at 3:39 pm#379139GeneBalthropParticipantWakeup……….Want us to believe that angels are spirit, but scripture say God creates their spirit they have in them , but many think that means they are spirit beings of some kind. Simply not true angels have bodies with spirits in them also, like us only their bodies do not die as our bodies can. IMO
peace and love to you and yours…………………….gene
April 23, 2014 at 7:03 pm#379143NickHassanParticipantHi GB,
Bodies?April 23, 2014 at 11:36 pm#379188WakeupParticipantQuote (Gene Balthrop @ April 24 2014,02:39) Wakeup……….Want us to believe that angels are spirit, but scripture say God creates their spirit they have in them , but many think that means they are spirit beings of some kind. Simply not true angels have bodies with spirits in them also, like us only their bodies do not die as our bodies can. IMO peace and love to you and yours…………………….gene
Gene B.God's Children are flesh, with spirit in them??
And God the father is a spirit?
But his only begotten Son is flesh?That is a wrong opinion.
wakeup.
April 23, 2014 at 11:45 pm#379190WakeupParticipantQuote (kerwin @ April 24 2014,01:57) Wakeup, I have read nothing about spirit angels though there are spirits that stand before Jehovah.
Zechariah 6:5
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)5 And the angel answered and said unto me, These are the four spirits of the heavens, which go forth from standing before the Lord of all the earth.
Kerwin.Yes; four spirits of God that walk to and fro through the earth.
Zechariah 1:8 I saw by night, and behold a man riding upon a red horse, and he stood among the myrtle trees that were in the bottom; and behind him were there red horses, speckled, and white.
Zechariah 1:9 Then said I, O my lord, what are these? And the angel that talked with me said unto me, I will shew thee what these be.
Zechariah 1:10 And the man that stood among the myrtle trees answered and said, These are they whom the LORD hath sent to walk to and fro through the earth.
wakeup.
April 24, 2014 at 12:44 am#379193mikeboll64BlockedQuote (kerwin @ April 23 2014,08:57) Wakeup, I have read nothing about spirit angels though there are spirits that stand before Jehovah.
Kerwin,Do you believe Satan is an angel?
April 24, 2014 at 12:46 am#379194mikeboll64BlockedQuote (Nick Hassan @ April 23 2014,13:03) Hi GB,
Bodies?
Nick,Do you doubt that angels have bodies? Their bodies are described all throughout scripture, right?
April 24, 2014 at 1:12 am#379208NickHassanParticipantHi MB,
Are they called bodies?April 24, 2014 at 1:18 am#379210mikeboll64BlockedHmmmm……….
If they have hands and feet and arms and legs and torsos and wings and faces……… I'd say those words are describing BODIES, Nick.
What would YOU call the thing that those above words describe?
April 24, 2014 at 1:37 am#379220NickHassanParticipantHi MB,
I do not think we should call them bodies if scripture doesn't.April 24, 2014 at 2:46 am#379227mikeboll64BlockedNick,
Job 41
1 Can you pull in Leviathan with a fishhook
or tie down its tongue with a rope?2 Can you put a cord through its nose
or pierce its jaw with a hook?7 Can you fill its hide with harpoons
or its head with fishing spears?12 I will not fail to speak of Leviathan’s limbs,
its strength and its graceful form.13 Who can strip off its outer coat?
Who can penetrate its double coat of armor?14 Who dares open the doors of its mouth,
ringed about with fearsome teeth?15 Its back has rows of shields
tightly sealed together;16 each is so close to the next
that no air can pass between.17 They are joined fast to one another;
they cling together and cannot be parted.18 Its snorting throws out flashes of light;
its eyes are like the rays of dawn.19 Flames stream from its mouth;
sparks of fire shoot out.20 Smoke pours from its nostrils
as from a boiling pot over burning reeds.21 Its breath sets coals ablaze,
and flames dart from its mouth.22 Strength resides in its neck;
dismay goes before it.23 The folds of its flesh are tightly joined;
they are firm and immovable.24 Its chest is hard as rock,
hard as a lower millstone.30 Its undersides are jagged potsherds,
leaving a trail in the mud like a threshing sledge.The word “body” is nowhere mentioned. But can we assume from the other words that leviathan had a body?
April 24, 2014 at 2:50 am#379228NickHassanParticipantHi MB,
Does the dragon of revelation have a body?April 24, 2014 at 2:53 am#379230mikeboll64BlockedAnswer mine first, Nick.
April 24, 2014 at 2:56 am#379231NickHassanParticipantHi MB,
Most of the major deceptions have arisen with a small addition.
Assumptions are never helpfulApril 24, 2014 at 4:35 am#379236kerwinParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ April 24 2014,05:36) Quote (Gene Balthrop @ April 24 2014,02:39) Wakeup……….Want us to believe that angels are spirit, but scripture say God creates their spirit they have in them , but many think that means they are spirit beings of some kind. Simply not true angels have bodies with spirits in them also, like us only their bodies do not die as our bodies can. IMO peace and love to you and yours…………………….gene
Gene B.God's Children are flesh, with spirit in them??
And God the father is a spirit?
But his only begotten Son is flesh?That is a wrong opinion.
wakeup.
Wakeup,Jesus was flesh on the day God acknowledged him as his Son.
April 24, 2014 at 11:40 am#379258WakeupParticipantQuote (kerwin @ April 24 2014,15:35) Quote (Wakeup @ April 24 2014,05:36) Quote (Gene Balthrop @ April 24 2014,02:39) Wakeup……….Want us to believe that angels are spirit, but scripture say God creates their spirit they have in them , but many think that means they are spirit beings of some kind. Simply not true angels have bodies with spirits in them also, like us only their bodies do not die as our bodies can. IMO peace and love to you and yours…………………….gene
Gene B.God's Children are flesh, with spirit in them??
And God the father is a spirit?
But his only begotten Son is flesh?That is a wrong opinion.
wakeup.
Wakeup,Jesus was flesh on the day God acknowledged him as his Son.
Kewin.You believe God is a spirit.
But you also believe that God's only begotten Son is born flesh; and is now still flesh.
And we also will be flesh.??Is Jesus not God's only begotten Son??
Is God not a spirit??
Are His sons in heaven not spirit sons??wakeup.
April 24, 2014 at 4:52 pm#379281NickHassanParticipantHi WU,
In heaven??
Perhaps you mean angelic sons?April 24, 2014 at 5:47 pm#379285kerwinParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ April 24 2014,17:40) Quote (kerwin @ April 24 2014,15:35) Quote (Wakeup @ April 24 2014,05:36) Quote (Gene Balthrop @ April 24 2014,02:39) Wakeup……….Want us to believe that angels are spirit, but scripture say God creates their spirit they have in them , but many think that means they are spirit beings of some kind. Simply not true angels have bodies with spirits in them also, like us only their bodies do not die as our bodies can. IMO peace and love to you and yours…………………….gene
Gene B.God's Children are flesh, with spirit in them??
And God the father is a spirit?
But his only begotten Son is flesh?That is a wrong opinion.
wakeup.
Wakeup,Jesus was flesh on the day God acknowledged him as his Son.
Kewin.You believe God is a spirit.
But you also believe that God's only begotten Son is born flesh; and is now still flesh.
And we also will be flesh.??Is Jesus not God's only begotten Son??
Is God not a spirit??
Are His sons in heaven not spirit sons??wakeup.
Wakeup,God does not father children as a man. His children are those that worship him in spirit and not those of his body, for he has no body. God is light and his children are light.
April 25, 2014 at 2:14 am#379351mikeboll64BlockedQuote (kerwin @ April 23 2014,22:35) Jesus was flesh on the day God acknowledged him as his Son.
Not in Psalm 2:7 he wasn't, Kerwin.Also, Jesus was already God's Son when God SENT him into the world and GAVE him as an atoning sacrifice for our sins.
God couldn't have SENT His Son unless he was already His Son BEFORE God SENT him into the world.
There are a lot of other scriptures that teach us the same thing, such as:
John 5:19
Jesus gave them this answer: “Very truly I tell you, the Son can do nothing by himself; he can do only what he sees his Father doing, because whatever the Father does the Son also does.When did the FLESH Son ever SEE the Father doing something?
April 25, 2014 at 2:16 am#379352mikeboll64BlockedQuote (Nick Hassan @ April 23 2014,20:56) Hi MB,
Most of the major deceptions have arisen with a small addition.
Assumptions are never helpful
Have it your way, Nick.But when I read the description of Leviathan in Job 41, it is CLEAR to me that leviathan had a BODY.
And when I read the descriptions of the faces, hands, feet, legs, and wings of angels, it is CLEAR to me that they have BODIES.
You are free to believe whatever you want – but I sense that you are simply being obtuse on this one, as you are on so many other issues.
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