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Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 13 2013,12:02) T, To be called a god is not necessary being a god.
Why do you suppose Paul called Satan a god, Kerwin?Because he wasn't one?
And why did God foretell that Jesus would be called “mighty god”? Because he wasn't going to be one?
Rest assured, if I call you an idiot, it is because I truly believe you are an idiot.
Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 13 2013,12:09) To answer you question the glory God has reserved for Jesus was not a body of any type.
Which scripture tells us that God had glory “reserved for” Jesus?I know of John 17:5, which speaks of the glory Jesus himself HAD with God before the world began. I'm not familiar with the scripture that says God had “reserved” some glory for Jesus.
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 13 2013,12:53) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 12 2013,09:32) Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 11 2013,11:08) Terrica…….So who is one of you “LITTLE” god's, that you know of please enlighten us, and if you “truly believe he or it is a “real “god or GOD to you , then you must serve it and trust in it's power, because that is only what a God or god can be to anyone who believe in them.
Well, in the case of Hebrews 1:8, Jesus is the “little god”, Gene.Do you serve your Lord Jesus? Yes.
Do you trust in his power to save? Yes.
Do you believe in your Lord Jesus? Yes.
So it seems Jesus fits all the criteria required to be a “real god” that you listed in your post, right?
Mike……….. So you decided to change the wording to a “little god” , or a lessor “God” so the word God changes it meaning as you see fit right!?
YOU are the one who was asking about a “little god”, Gene. I just showed you who one of them was……. according to scripture.Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 13 2013,13:08) Do I trust in HIS power, NO , I trust in the POWER of MY GOD who is with him.
So you don't think the God of Jesus has given him power and authority over heaven and earth? Hmmmmm………..(Of course, ALL power originates with the MOST HIGH God, but once God GIVES power to another being, say, a less high god like Jesus, it is THEIR power until God takes it back. So Jesus has power of his own, that has been GIVEN to him from his God. He is now the second most powerful being in existence.)
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 13 2013,16:55) Have you noticed how Mike avoids this scripture, like the plague……..
Gene,Who is the “Son” that is called “O God” in Hebrews 1:8?
Who are the gods Jehovah assembles with in Psalm 82?
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 15 2013,05:54) Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 12 2013,20:15) Mike, One that is not reborn in spirit will not inherit the kingdom of God. The only way to be reborn in spirit is by the power of acting through his Spirit.
It is like you missed a large part of message of the gospel.
Where is this “reborn IN spirit” coming from?Jesus said, “spirit gives birth to spirit“, right?
So, when we are reborn of spirit (not “in spirit”), what will we be?
Mike …..We could just as easily say Intellect gives birth to intellect also, but none of the makes Intellect a BODY . As i have told you many times before You simply do not understand what Spirit “IS” , Spirit never has been a “BODY” of any kind or type , Spirits are what is “IN” BODIES, you never have it seems grasp that.That is why it says no one has EVER SEEN GOD, why because he is SPIRIT and his body is His creation he lives “IN” and “THROUGH”. That is also why Paul said “know you not that your “BODIES” are the temples of the “LIVING GOD” . That is why it also say we can see the hidden attributes of God in the creation why because his Spirit is in the creation also.
God the FATHER who “IS” Spirit was truly “IN” Jesus , you have not come to grips with that reality yet. When Thomas said My lord (adoni) “AND” My GOD (adonia), he finely came to the realization GOD the FATHER, was truly “IN” the Man Jesus, “BOTH” were Present in that one body or as God spoke through Jesus' mouth, calling it, the temple, he would raise up in three days, just as Jesus was saying all along God the FATHER was “IN” him, it just simply truly donned on Thomas that God the Father was truly there “IN” Jesus, Mike.
peace and love to you and yours…………………………gene
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 15 2013,06:09) Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 13 2013,16:55) Have you noticed how Mike avoids this scripture, like the plague……..
Gene,Who is the “Son” that is called “O God” in Hebrews 1:8?
Who are the gods Jehovah assembles with in Psalm 82?
Mike………Hear is your answers. But you are the one who need to make them work out not me i have already explained them toy you many tomes. Try to jam these together with your inderstandings.Father “YOU” are the “ONLY” “TRUE” GOD.
we know that there are not idols in the world and that there is “NO” God . nut “ONE”
You shall have “NO” other God besides “ME”
but unto us there is but ONE GOD
I “ALONE” AND GOD AND THERE IS “NO' OTHER GOD BESIDES “ME”
there is “ONE” GOD and “ONE” MEDIATOR, between God and man the “MAN” Jesus Christ
I looked for other God's and found “NONE”
you believe that there is ONLY “ONE” GOD , you do well.
Even the devil believes that Mike.
peace and love to you and yours…………………………..gene
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 15 2013,00:54) Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 12 2013,20:15) Mike, One that is not reborn in spirit will not inherit the kingdom of God. The only way to be reborn in spirit is by the power of acting through his Spirit.
It is like you missed a large part of message of the gospel.
Where is this “reborn IN spirit” coming from?Jesus said, “spirit gives birth to spirit“, right?
So, when we are reborn of spirit (not “in spirit”), what will we be?
Mike,It is paraphrase throughout Scripture. Nicodemus should have known of what Jesus was speaking as should anyone claiming to be a teacher.
Psalm 51:10
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)10 Create in me a clean heart, O God;
and renew a right spirit within me.Ephesians 4:23
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)23 and be renewed in the spirit of your mind;
Ezekiel 11:19
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)19 And I will give them one heart, and I will put a new spirit within you; and I will take the stony heart out of their flesh, and will give them an heart of flesh:
Ezekiel 18:31
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)31 Cast away from you all your transgressions, whereby ye have transgressed; and make you a new heart and a new spirit: for why will ye die, O house of Israel?
Ezekiel 36:26
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
Without a new spirit you cannot inherit the kingdom of heaven.
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 15 2013,01:01) Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 13 2013,12:09) To answer you question the glory God has reserved for Jesus was not a body of any type.
Which scripture tells us that God had glory “reserved for” Jesus?I know of John 17:5, which speaks of the glory Jesus himself HAD with God before the world began. I'm not familiar with the scripture that says God had “reserved” some glory for Jesus.
Mike,I was paraphrasing the one you speak of as God had the glory that he predestined to be Jesus' before the world began. Jesus was asking for it and so he did not yet have it. He also did not say he surrendered it.
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 15 2013,00:57) Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 13 2013,12:02) T, To be called a god is not necessary being a god.
Why do you suppose Paul called Satan a god, Kerwin?Because he wasn't one?
And why did God foretell that Jesus would be called “mighty god”? Because he wasn't going to be one?
Rest assured, if I call you an idiot, it is because I truly believe you are an idiot.
Mike,Paul called Satan the God of this world. It simply means the people of this world worship him and so he is their God. People can take a rock and worship it and it will be their God but it does not make it a God like God is God.
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 15 2013,21:22) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 15 2013,05:54) Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 12 2013,20:15) Mike, One that is not reborn in spirit will not inherit the kingdom of God. The only way to be reborn in spirit is by the power of acting through his Spirit.
It is like you missed a large part of message of the gospel.
Where is this “reborn IN spirit” coming from?Jesus said, “spirit gives birth to spirit“, right?
So, when we are reborn of spirit (not “in spirit”), what will we be?
Mike …..We could just as easily say Intellect gives birth to intellect also, but none of the makes Intellect a BODY . As i have told you many times before You simply do not understand what Spirit “IS” , Spirit never has been a “BODY” of any kind or type , Spirits are what is “IN” BODIES, you never have it seems grasp that.That is why it says no one has EVER SEEN GOD, why because he is SPIRIT and his body is His creation he lives “IN” and “THROUGH”. That is also why Paul said “know you not that your “BODIES” are the temples of the “LIVING GOD” . That is why it also say we can see the hidden attributes of God in the creation why because his Spirit is in the creation also.
God the FATHER who “IS” Spirit was truly “IN” Jesus , you have not come to grips with that reality yet. When Thomas said My lord (adoni) “AND” My GOD (adonia), he finely came to the realization GOD the FATHER, was truly “IN” the Man Jesus, “BOTH” were Present in that one body or as God spoke through Jesus' mouth, calling it, the temple, he would raise up in three days, just as Jesus was saying all along God the FATHER was “IN” him, it just simply truly donned on Thomas that God the Father was truly there “IN” Jesus, Mike.
peace and love to you and yours…………………………gene
what Christ was really saying is that godly knowledge gives birth to godly understanding,'
and it is that understanding that lead to everlasting life if we follow it,Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 14 2013,08:18) Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 14 2013,05:18) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 13 2013,15:09) Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 13 2013,13:19) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 12 2013,06:06) Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 12 2013,10:14) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 12 2013,05:10) Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 12 2013,05:37) T, Quote k MT 13:39 and the enemy who sowed them is the devil, and the harvest is the end of the age; and the reapers are angels.
MT 13:41 “ The Son of Man will send forth His angels, and they will gather out of His kingdom all stumbling blocks, and those who commit lawlessness,
MT 13:49 “So it will be at the end of the age; the angels will come forth and take out the wicked from among the righteous,
MT 16:27 “For the Son of Man is going to come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and WILL THEN REPAY EVERY MAN ACCORDING TO HIS DEEDS.it does not say that men do go to heaven ,but it says that they stay on the earth and that the wicked will be destroyed or removed ,
Whether this passage supports your idea that humanity will dwell on the earth after the Judgement is an issue as I believe they will. The earth will at that time be part of the Kingdom of God of which Paul states the combination of flesh and blood will not inherit.
Quote MT 22:30 “For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven. this scripture says how men condition will be after the resurrection ,
Humans will neither marry or be given in marriage just like angels currently do not.
Nothing you wrote actually makes the case that only spirits can enter the kingdom of heaven.
I know of only Jesus and man Paul spoke of entering heaven.
Kerwin.At the coming,there will be two things happening.
1.The saints will be resurrected in a spirit body.
2.The chosen jews of all generations will be brought back
in the flesh to be taught by the saints.
3.The saints will have inherited all things.
4. Not yet for the jews;they need to go through Christ first.
5. The 1000yrs will be paradise for the jews.
6. No wars,no pain,no sorrows;the lion will eat straw.
Isaiah 11. 65.
7.The gentiles outside will be taught by the jews.
8.Jews and gentiles will multiply.
9. The gentiles will be sifted: believers from non believers.
10. Second judgement.wakeup.
Wakeup,Flesh will be saved when Jesus comes as the Son of man.
Kerwin.The jews remnant/chosen will be brought back in the flesh, into paradise,
to be taught by the resurrected saints.(they/jews, must go through Christ).
The resurrected saints have inherited all things.The kingdom of heaven is theirs also.wakeup.
Wakeup,Paul stated that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God and the new earth will both be in the kingdom of God.
The new earth is for humanity and the new heaven for the angels.
Kerwin.1.God's kingdom will be on earth.
2.God himself also will be on earth(the new earth).
3.At the second coming certain things will happen.
A.The destruction of the cities of the nations.
(babylon the great).
B.The resurrection of the saints.
C. The bringing back to life the chosen jews in the flesh.
D. Paradise restored for them;the lion eat straw.(Is. 11. 65).
They live up to a hundred yrs then die.The saints will teach
them.
E. The jews will teach the gentiles out side.
F. At the end of the thousand yrs;satan will be let loose to
sift out the non believers.By gathering them to one place
To be destroyed,this is the battle of gog and magog.wakeup.
Wakeup,1 Corinthians 15:50
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
You are telling me Jewish flesh inherits the kingdom of God. I have no personal objection to that beyond the fact that the earth is humanity's and the heavens belong the angels. It is your own interpretation of 1 Corinthians 15:50 that disagrees with the teaching that “The chosen jews of all generations will be brought back in the flesh to be taught by the saints.”
Kerwin.Romans 10:19 But I say, Did not Israel know? First Moses saith, ***I will provoke you to jealousy by them that are no
people***,
and by a foolish nation I will anger you.THEM THAT ARE NO PEOPLE AT THAT TIME: THESE ARE THE CHRISTIANS,TODAY.(MAINLY GENTILES).
Romans 11:11 I say then, Have they(jews) stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, *for*
***to provoke them to jealousy***.THROUGH THEIR FALL,(JEWS); SALVATION HAS COME TO THE GENTILES. TO PROVOKE THEM(JEWS) TO JEALOUSY.
HOW WOULD GOD PROVOKE THEM TO JEALOUSY?Revelation 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but
***they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall
reign with him a thousand years***.THE RESURRECTED GENTILES,WILL BE PRIESTS
OF GOD AND OF CHRIST,AND REIGN WITH HIM FOR A THOUSAND YEARS. THEY WILL BE THE TEACHERS OF THE JEWS, THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGH BACK IN THE FLESH.
THEM JEWS THAT HAVE ENTERED INTO THE REST.ISIAH 11. 65.
(jews suppose to teach the gentiles,but God *will* turn it
the other way around).1.THE CHOSEN JEWS WILL BE AT REST FOR A THOUSAND YEARS WITH NO PAIN AND SUFFERING,NO WARS.
THIS WOULD BE **PARADISE** FOR THEM.2.THE RESURRECTED SAINTS WOULD HAVE INHERITED
HEAVEN AND EARTH. THEY COULD ENTER THE HEAVENLY
KINGDOM,AND THEI
R EARTHLY KINGDOM WITH CHRIST,
AS KING OF KINGS.3. THE THIEF AT CHRISTS RIGHT HAND WAS PROMISED
TO BE WITH CHRIST IN ***PARADISE***.
HE WILL BE UNITED WITH HIS FELLOWS AND LEARN
ABOUT CHRIST.
THAT WAS THE WHOLE EXPLANATION IN DETAIL.wakeup.
Wakeup,You are missing the what the actual words of Scripture are.
It states:
1 Corinthians 15:50
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
At that time the kingdom of God will include both the new earth and the heaven. If flesh cannot enter heaven then flesh cannot enter earth and if flesh can enter earth it can enter heaven. So either flesh cannot enter the kingdom of heaven or it can not a mixture as you are claiming.
Quote (david @ Dec. 14 2013,11:39) Quote So according to you it is honest to say that a woman both came in a dress and was transformed into a dress. Weird analogy.
The women came in person and and was a person.
David,When speaking of being without flesh a certain person said they would be naked. Clothes symbolize flesh.
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gno gene ,just only one almighty true God and all the other gods are lesser gods but are very real
T,There are no lesser gods mentioned in Scripture but there is those called gods mentioned.
Ksame thing ;there is no other God like Jehovah but there are many gods in heaven and on earth
T,To be called a god is not necessary being a god.
Kbeing a god mean being powerful ;and we know that no one is more powerful than Jehovah God the creator right
yes
T,Maybe in the Hebrew language but we speak English and people are used to a god being one that is worshiped. In the passage for us their is only one God Paul is using it to mean a being that is worshiped.
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gno gene ,just only one almighty true God and all the other gods are lesser gods but are very real
T,There are no lesser gods mentioned in Scripture but there is those called gods mentioned.
Ksame thing ;there is no other God like Jehovah but there are many gods in heaven and on earth
T,To be called a god is not necessary being a god.
Kbeing a god mean being powerful ;and we know that no one is more powerful than Jehovah God the creator right
yes
T,Maybe in the Hebrew language but we speak English and people are used to a god being one that is worshiped. In the passage for us their is only one God Paul is using it to mean a being that is worshiped.
KerwinI thought we all spoke fluent Hebrew and Greek on here?
Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 16 2013,09:12) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 14 2013,08:26) Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 14 2013,00:02) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 12 2013,05:19) Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 12 2013,00:23) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 10 2013,23:42)
gno gene ,just only one almighty true God and all the other gods are lesser gods but are very real
T,There are no lesser gods mentioned in Scripture but there is those called gods mentioned.
Ksame thing ;there is no other God like Jehovah but there are many gods in heaven and on earth
T,To be called a god is not necessary being a god.
Kbeing a god mean being powerful ;and we know that no one is more powerful than Jehovah God the creator right
yes
T,Maybe in the Hebrew language but we speak English and people are used to a god being one that is worshiped. In the passage for us their is only one God Paul is using it to mean a being that is worshiped.
ki do not see any difference;either in Dutch or French,English ,
i still do not see where small gods are compere to God Jehovah
or mighty ones to almighty Jehovah
all looks the same to me,
there still is only one ALMIGHTY JEHOVAH GOD,
but that does not make the other smaller gods in comparison to the almighty Jehovah to be fake or false ,history can tell you that
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gno gene ,just only one almighty true God and all the other gods are lesser gods but are very real
T,There are no lesser gods mentioned in Scripture but there is those called gods mentioned.
Ksame thing ;there is no other God like Jehovah but there are many gods in heaven and on earth
T,To be called a god is not necessary being a god.
Kbeing a god mean being powerful ;and we know that no one is more powerful than Jehovah God the creator right
yes
T,Maybe in the Hebrew language but we speak English and people are used to a god being one that is worshiped. In the passage for us their is only one God Paul is using it to mean a being that is worshiped.
KerwinI thought we all spoke fluent Hebrew and Greek on here?
Journey,We simply read dictionaries and lexicons where others did the work for us. The Spirit then guides us to the truth.
Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 16 2013,13:31) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 14 2013,08:18) Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 14 2013,05:18) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 13 2013,15:09) Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 13 2013,13:19) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 12 2013,06:06) Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 12 2013,10:14) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 12 2013,05:10) Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 12 2013,05:37) T, Quote k MT 13:39 and the enemy who sowed them is the devil, and the harvest is the end of the age; and the reapers are angels.
MT 13:41 “ The Son of Man will send forth His angels, and they will gather out of His kingdom all stumbling blocks, and those who commit lawlessness,
MT 13:49 “So it will be at the end of the age; the angels will come forth and take out the wicked from among the righteous,
MT 16:27 “For the Son of Man is going to come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and WILL THEN REPAY EVERY MAN ACCORDING TO HIS DEEDS.it does not say that men do go to heaven ,but it says that they stay on the earth and that the wicked will be destroyed or removed ,
Whether this passage supports your idea that humanity will dwell on the earth after the Judgement is an issue as I believe they will. The earth will at that time be part of the Kingdom of God of which Paul states the combination of flesh and blood will not inherit.
Quote MT 22:30 “For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven. this scripture says how men condition will be after the resurrection ,
Humans will neither marry or be given in marriage just like angels currently do not.
Nothing you wrote actually makes the case that only spirits can enter the kingdom of heaven.
I know of only Jesus and man Paul spoke of entering heaven.
Kerwin.At the coming,there will be two things happening.
1.The saints will be resurrected in a spirit body.
2.The chosen jews of all generations will be brought back
in the flesh to be taught by the saints.
3.The saints will have inherited all things.
4. Not yet for the jews;they need to go through Christ first.
5. The 1000yrs will be paradise for the jews.
6. No wars,no pain,no sorrows;the lion will eat straw.
Isaiah 11. 65.
7.The gentiles outside will be taught by the jews.
8.Jews and gentiles will multiply.
9. The gentiles will be sifted: believers from non believers.
10. Second judgement.wakeup.
Wakeup,Flesh will be saved when Jesus comes as the Son of man.
Kerwin.The jews remnant/chosen will be brought back in the flesh, into paradise,
to be taught by the resurrected saints.(they/jews, must go through Christ).
The resurrected saints have inherited all things.The kingdom of heaven is theirs also.wakeup.
Wakeup,Paul stated that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God and the new earth will both be in the kingdom of God.
The new earth is for humanity and the new heaven for the angels.
Kerwin.1.God's kingdom will be on earth.
2.God himself also will be on earth(the new earth).
3.At the second coming certain things will happen.
A.The destruction of the cities of the nations.
(babylon the great).
B.The resurrection of the saints.
C. The bringing back to life the chosen jews in the flesh.
D. Paradise restored for them;the lion eat straw.(Is. 11. 65).
They live up to a hundred yrs then die.The saints will teach
them.
E. The jews will teach the gentiles out side.
F. At the end of the thousand yrs;satan will be let loose to
sift out the non believers.By gathering them to one place
To be destroyed,this is the battle of gog and magog.wakeup.
Wakeup,1 Corinthians 15:50
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
You are telling me Jewish flesh inherits the kingdom of God. I have no personal objection to that beyond the fact that the earth is humanity's and the heavens belong the angels. It is your own interpretation of 1 Corinthians 15:50 that disagrees with the teaching that “The chosen jews of all generations will be brought back in the flesh to be taught by the saints.”
Kerwin.Romans 10:19 But I say, Did not Israel know? First Moses saith, ***I will provoke you to jealousy by them that are no
people***,
and by a foolish nation I will anger you.THEM THAT ARE NO PEOPLE AT THAT TIME: THESE ARE THE CHRISTIANS,TODAY.(MAINLY GENTILES).
Romans 11:11 I say then, Have they(jews) stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, *for*
***to provoke them to jealousy***.THROUGH THEIR FALL,(JEWS); SALVATION HAS COME TO THE GENTILES. TO PROVOKE THEM(JEWS) TO JEALOUSY.
HOW WOULD GOD PROVOKE THEM TO JEALOUSY?Revelation 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but
***they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall
reign with him a thousand years***.THE RESURRECTED GENTILES,WILL BE PRIESTS
OF GOD AND OF CHRIST,AND REIGN WITH HIM FOR A THOUSAND YEARS. THEY WILL BE THE TEACHERS OF THE JEWS, THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGH BACK IN THE FLESH.
THEM JEWS THAT HAVE ENTERED INTO THE REST.ISIAH 11. 65.
(jews suppose to teach the gentiles,but God *will* turn it
the other way around).1.THE CHOSEN JEWS WILL BE AT REST FOR A THOU
SAND YEARS WITH NO PAIN AND SUFFERING,NO WARS.
THIS WOULD BE **PARADISE** FOR THEM.2.THE RESURRECTED SAINTS WOULD HAVE INHERITED
HEAVEN AND EARTH. THEY COULD ENTER THE HEAVENLY
KINGDOM,AND THEIR EARTHLY KINGDOM WITH CHRIST,
AS KING OF KINGS.3. THE THIEF AT CHRISTS RIGHT HAND WAS PROMISED
TO BE WITH CHRIST IN ***PARADISE***.
HE WILL BE UNITED WITH HIS FELLOWS AND LEARN
ABOUT CHRIST.
THAT WAS THE WHOLE EXPLANATION IN DETAIL.wakeup.
Wakeup,You are missing the what the actual words of Scripture are.
It states:
1 Corinthians 15:50
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
At that time the kingdom of God will include both the new earth and the heaven. If flesh cannot enter heaven then flesh cannot enter earth and if flesh can enter earth it can enter heaven. So either flesh cannot enter the kingdom of heaven or it can not a mixture as you are claiming.
Kerwin.You have failed to address paradise,where the forgiven
thief will be.
This is where the flesh will inhabit,untill
all work is done by The king and his saints.
When the heavens and the earth is made new.
All will be in spirit form,after the white throne judgement. This is when the kingdom of heaven will come down to earth.
Seek the deep things of God.wakeup.
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gno gene ,just only one almighty true God and all the other gods are lesser gods but are very real
T,There are no lesser gods mentioned in Scripture but there is those called gods mentioned.
Ksame thing ;there is no other God like Jehovah but there are many gods in heaven and on earth
T,To be called a god is not necessary being a god.
Kbeing a god mean being powerful ;and we know that no one is more powerful than Jehovah God the creator right
yes
T,Maybe in the Hebrew language but we speak English and people are used to a god being one that is worshiped. In the passage for us their is only one God Paul is using it to mean a being that is worshiped.
KerwinI thought we all spoke fluent Hebrew and Greek on here?
Journey,We simply read dictionaries and lexicons where others did the work for us. The Spirit then guides us to the truth.
Kerwin.Yea; establishing your own way to seek the truth.
Disregarding Jesus advise,by going your own way.Matthew 11:29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
Matthew 11:30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.Yea; dont worry about all that,your own way is *THE* way.
Therefore there is no rest unto the soul.Amos 8:11 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord GOD, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the LORD:
Isaiah 5:21 Woe unto them that are wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight!
Isaiah 5:5 And now go to; I will tell you what I will do to my vineyard: I will take away the hedge thereof, and it shall be eaten up; and break down the wall thereof, and it shall be trodden down:
Isaiah 5:6 And I will lay it waste: it shall not be pruned, nor digged; but there shall come up briers and thorns: I will also command the clouds that they rain no rain upon it.
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