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Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 12 2013,00:23) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 10 2013,23:42)
gno gene ,just only one almighty true God and all the other gods are lesser gods but are very real
T,There are no lesser gods mentioned in Scripture but there is those called gods mentioned.
Ksame thing ;there is no other God like Jehovah but there are many gods in heaven and on earth
Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 12 2013,00:37) T, Quote k MT 13:39 and the enemy who sowed them is the devil, and the harvest is the end of the age; and the reapers are angels.
MT 13:41 “ The Son of Man will send forth His angels, and they will gather out of His kingdom all stumbling blocks, and those who commit lawlessness,
MT 13:49 “So it will be at the end of the age; the angels will come forth and take out the wicked from among the righteous,
MT 16:27 “For the Son of Man is going to come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and WILL THEN REPAY EVERY MAN ACCORDING TO HIS DEEDS.it does not say that men do go to heaven ,but it says that they stay on the earth and that the wicked will be destroyed or removed ,
Whether this passage supports your idea that humanity will dwell on the earth after the Judgement is an issue as I believe they will. The earth will at that time be part of the Kingdom of God of which Paul states the combination of flesh and blood will not inherit.
Quote MT 22:30 “For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven. this scripture says how men condition will be after the resurrection ,
Humans will neither marry or be given in marriage just like angels currently do not.
Nothing you wrote actually makes the case that only spirits can enter the kingdom of heaven.
I know of only Jesus and man Paul spoke of entering heaven.
KJN 17:24 “Father, I desire that they also, whom You have given Me, be with Me where I am, so that they may see My glory which You have given Me, for You loved Me before the foundation of the world.
PAY ATTENTION TO ;so that they may see My glory;
SO CHRIST AD ANOTHER GLORY THAN THE ONE HE HAD ON EARTH RIGHT ;Jn 17:5 And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began;
NOW WHAT GLORY DID THE SON HAD BEFORE HE CAME TO EARTH ; AND THAT HE RECEIVED BACK WHEN HE WENT TO HIS FATHER
CERTAINLY NOT THE FLESH ;BUT HE SAID SOMETHING ELSE ;I desire that they also, whom(144K) You have given Me, be with Me where I am, so that they may see ;;THAT BEFORE I WAS A MAN I WAS A SPIRIT BEING BESIDE YOU,
IF HIS CHOSEN DISCIPLE (144K) WILL SEE HIM IN HEAVEN THE WAY HE HIS IN HIS HEAVENLY GLORY THIS MEANS THAT THEY ALSO ARE NO LONGER MAN OR FLESH ,UNDERSTAND THAT THEY ALL HAVE TO DIE IN THE FLESH NO MATTER WHAT .THIS IS TO ALLOW THE FULL GLORY THAT THEY CAME TO GAIN BY BEING FAITHFUL TILL DEAD
Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 12 2013,10:14) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 12 2013,05:10) Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 12 2013,05:37) T, Quote k MT 13:39 and the enemy who sowed them is the devil, and the harvest is the end of the age; and the reapers are angels.
MT 13:41 “ The Son of Man will send forth His angels, and they will gather out of His kingdom all stumbling blocks, and those who commit lawlessness,
MT 13:49 “So it will be at the end of the age; the angels will come forth and take out the wicked from among the righteous,
MT 16:27 “For the Son of Man is going to come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and WILL THEN REPAY EVERY MAN ACCORDING TO HIS DEEDS.it does not say that men do go to heaven ,but it says that they stay on the earth and that the wicked will be destroyed or removed ,
Whether this passage supports your idea that humanity will dwell on the earth after the Judgement is an issue as I believe they will. The earth will at that time be part of the Kingdom of God of which Paul states the combination of flesh and blood will not inherit.
Quote MT 22:30 “For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven. this scripture says how men condition will be after the resurrection ,
Humans will neither marry or be given in marriage just like angels currently do not.
Nothing you wrote actually makes the case that only spirits can enter the kingdom of heaven.
I know of only Jesus and man Paul spoke of entering heaven.
Kerwin.At the coming,there will be two things happening.
1.The saints will be resurrected in a spirit body.
2.The chosen jews of all generations will be brought back
in the flesh to be taught by the saints.
3.The saints will have inherited all things.
4. Not yet for the jews;they need to go through Christ first.
5. The 1000yrs will be paradise for the jews.
6. No wars,no pain,no sorrows;the lion will eat straw.
Isaiah 11. 65.
7.The gentiles outside will be taught by the jews.
8.Jews and gentiles will multiply.
9. The gentiles will be sifted: believers from non believers.
10. Second judgement.wakeup.
Wakeup,Flesh will be saved when Jesus comes as the Son of man.
Kerwin.The jews remnant/chosen will be brought back in the flesh, into paradise,
to be taught by the resurrected saints.(they/jews, must go through Christ).
The resurrected saints have inherited all things.The kingdom of heaven is theirs also.wakeup.
Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 12 2013,10:19) Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 12 2013,00:23) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 10 2013,23:42)
gno gene ,just only one almighty true God and all the other gods are lesser gods but are very real
T,There are no lesser gods mentioned in Scripture but there is those called gods mentioned.
Ksame thing ;there is no other God like Jehovah but there are many gods in heaven and on earth
Terricca………So you deny Jesus' word and God the Fathers, and Paul's words and push your own understandings of these scriptures , Where do you find in your bible where it is “LIKE ME” at meaning some other “TRUE” Gods exist? What my bible says is God said, there is No other GOD'S BUT HIM, not “LIKE” Him, and if Jesus said He was the “ONLY” “TRUE” GOD, then even a child could know all other, SO-CALLED GOD'S are “UNTRUE” or “FALSE” God's. If scripture says we know that there is no idol in the world and that there is “NO” God, but “ONE I don't see the word “LIKE” There do you?Who are we to believe Pierre, you and your Wolf friend, or the word of God? Pierre dump those false teaching of Mike and except what you know in your hear is the truth. Carnal minded men, have created all kind of false God's in the past and present , but there is ONLY ONE TRUE GOD all other are “NOT” TRUE, they are “FALSE” GOD'S.
peace and love to you and yours……………………….gene
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 12 2013,09:29) Who are we to believe Pierre, you and your Wolf friend, or the word of God?
Well Gene,Since the fox and the wolf are the ones who are preaching what the scriptures actually teach, over and over, from front to back, then you should believe us. We are, after all, saying the exact same thing the written word of God has taught us.
Gene, read Psalm 82. Who are the gods Jehovah is assembling with in that teaching?
Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 11 2013,17:11) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 12 2013,04:05) Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 10 2013,10:16) It is not written that only spirit will inherit the kingdom of God
Like I said Kerwin, read John 3 over and over again.Why, according to Jesus' words in that passage, must we be born again? If you can answer that, you'll be well on your way to understanding the teaching.
Mike,I have read it and anyone that hungers and thirst for righteousness can see it is speaking of the getting a new spirit.
Hmmmm………..Flesh gives birth to flesh, and spirit gives birth to spirit, so we must be born again in order to see, or enter into, the kingdom of God.
That is the teaching.
Right now we are flesh because we were begotten BY flesh – and flesh can only give birth to more flesh, right?
But if spirit begets SPIRIT, and not FLESH, then what will we be when we are born again of SPIRIT?
Mike,
One that is not reborn in spirit will not inherit the kingdom of God. The only way to be reborn in spirit is by the power of acting through his Spirit.
It is like you missed a large part of message of the gospel.
Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 12 2013,06:06) Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 12 2013,10:14) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 12 2013,05:10) Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 12 2013,05:37) T, Quote k MT 13:39 and the enemy who sowed them is the devil, and the harvest is the end of the age; and the reapers are angels.
MT 13:41 “ The Son of Man will send forth His angels, and they will gather out of His kingdom all stumbling blocks, and those who commit lawlessness,
MT 13:49 “So it will be at the end of the age; the angels will come forth and take out the wicked from among the righteous,
MT 16:27 “For the Son of Man is going to come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and WILL THEN REPAY EVERY MAN ACCORDING TO HIS DEEDS.it does not say that men do go to heaven ,but it says that they stay on the earth and that the wicked will be destroyed or removed ,
Whether this passage supports your idea that humanity will dwell on the earth after the Judgement is an issue as I believe they will. The earth will at that time be part of the Kingdom of God of which Paul states the combination of flesh and blood will not inherit.
Quote MT 22:30 “For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven. this scripture says how men condition will be after the resurrection ,
Humans will neither marry or be given in marriage just like angels currently do not.
Nothing you wrote actually makes the case that only spirits can enter the kingdom of heaven.
I know of only Jesus and man Paul spoke of entering heaven.
Kerwin.At the coming,there will be two things happening.
1.The saints will be resurrected in a spirit body.
2.The chosen jews of all generations will be brought back
in the flesh to be taught by the saints.
3.The saints will have inherited all things.
4. Not yet for the jews;they need to go through Christ first.
5. The 1000yrs will be paradise for the jews.
6. No wars,no pain,no sorrows;the lion will eat straw.
Isaiah 11. 65.
7.The gentiles outside will be taught by the jews.
8.Jews and gentiles will multiply.
9. The gentiles will be sifted: believers from non believers.
10. Second judgement.wakeup.
Wakeup,Flesh will be saved when Jesus comes as the Son of man.
Kerwin.The jews remnant/chosen will be brought back in the flesh, into paradise,
to be taught by the resurrected saints.(they/jews, must go through Christ).
The resurrected saints have inherited all things.The kingdom of heaven is theirs also.wakeup.
Wakeup,Paul stated that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God and the new earth will both be in the kingdom of God.
The new earth is for humanity and the new heaven for the angels.
Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 13 2013,13:19) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 12 2013,06:06) Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 12 2013,10:14) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 12 2013,05:10) Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 12 2013,05:37) T, Quote k MT 13:39 and the enemy who sowed them is the devil, and the harvest is the end of the age; and the reapers are angels.
MT 13:41 “ The Son of Man will send forth His angels, and they will gather out of His kingdom all stumbling blocks, and those who commit lawlessness,
MT 13:49 “So it will be at the end of the age; the angels will come forth and take out the wicked from among the righteous,
MT 16:27 “For the Son of Man is going to come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and WILL THEN REPAY EVERY MAN ACCORDING TO HIS DEEDS.it does not say that men do go to heaven ,but it says that they stay on the earth and that the wicked will be destroyed or removed ,
Whether this passage supports your idea that humanity will dwell on the earth after the Judgement is an issue as I believe they will. The earth will at that time be part of the Kingdom of God of which Paul states the combination of flesh and blood will not inherit.
Quote MT 22:30 “For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven. this scripture says how men condition will be after the resurrection ,
Humans will neither marry or be given in marriage just like angels currently do not.
Nothing you wrote actually makes the case that only spirits can enter the kingdom of heaven.
I know of only Jesus and man Paul spoke of entering heaven.
Kerwin.At the coming,there will be two things happening.
1.The saints will be resurrected in a spirit body.
2.The chosen jews of all generations will be brought back
in the flesh to be taught by the saints.
3.The saints will have inherited all things.
4. Not yet for the jews;they need to go through Christ first.
5. The 1000yrs will be paradise for the jews.
6. No wars,no pain,no sorrows;the lion will eat straw.
Isaiah 11. 65.
7.The gentiles outside will be taught by the jews.
8.Jews and gentiles will multiply.
9. The gentiles will be sifted: believers from non believers.
10. Second judgement.wakeup.
Wakeup,Flesh will be saved when Jesus comes as the Son of man.
Kerwin.The jews remnant/chosen will be brought back in the flesh, into paradise,
to be taught by the resurrected saints.(they/jews, must go through Christ).
The resurrected saints have inherited all things.The kingdom of heaven is theirs also.wakeup.
Wakeup,Paul stated that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God and the new earth will both be in the kingdom of God.
The new earth is for humanity and the new heaven for the angels.
Kerwin.1.God's kingdom will be on earth.
2.God himself also will be on earth(the new earth).
3.At the second coming certain things will happen.
A.The destruction of the cities of the nations.
(babylon the great).
B.The resurrection of the saints.
C. The bringing back to life the chosen jews in the flesh.
D. Paradise restored for them;the lion eat straw.(Is. 11. 65).
They live up to a hundred yrs then die.The saints will teach
them.
E. The jews will teach the gentiles out side.
F. At the end of the thousand yrs;satan will be let loose to
sift out the non believers.By gathering them to one place
To be destroyed,this is the battle of gog and magog.wakeup.
Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 12 2013,05:19) Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 12 2013,00:23) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 10 2013,23:42)
gno gene ,just only one almighty true God and all the other gods are lesser gods but are very real
T,There are no lesser gods mentioned in Scripture but there is those called gods mentioned.
Ksame thing ;there is no other God like Jehovah but there are many gods in heaven and on earth
T,To be called a god is not necessary being a god.
Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 12 2013,05:49) Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 12 2013,00:37) T, Quote k MT 13:39 and the enemy who sowed them is the devil, and the harvest is the end of the age; and the reapers are angels.
MT 13:41 “ The Son of Man will send forth His angels, and they will gather out of His kingdom all stumbling blocks, and those who commit lawlessness,
MT 13:49 “So it will be at the end of the age; the angels will come forth and take out the wicked from among the righteous,
MT 16:27 “For the Son of Man is going to come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and WILL THEN REPAY EVERY MAN ACCORDING TO HIS DEEDS.it does not say that men do go to heaven ,but it says that they stay on the earth and that the wicked will be destroyed or removed ,
Whether this passage supports your idea that humanity will dwell on the earth after the Judgement is an issue as I believe they will. The earth will at that time be part of the Kingdom of God of which Paul states the combination of flesh and blood will not inherit.
Quote MT 22:30 “For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven. this scripture says how men condition will be after the resurrection ,
Humans will neither marry or be given in marriage just like angels currently do not.
Nothing you wrote actually makes the case that only spirits can enter the kingdom of heaven.
I know of only Jesus and man Paul spoke of entering heaven.
KJN 17:24 “Father, I desire that they also, whom You have given Me, be with Me where I am, so that they may see My glory which You have given Me, for You loved Me before the foundation of the world.
PAY ATTENTION TO ;so that they may see My glory;
SO CHRIST AD ANOTHER GLORY THAN THE ONE HE HAD ON EARTH RIGHT ;Jn 17:5 And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began;
NOW WHAT GLORY DID THE SON HAD BEFORE HE CAME TO EARTH ; AND THAT HE RECEIVED BACK WHEN HE WENT TO HIS FATHER
CERTAINLY NOT THE FLESH ;BUT HE SAID SOMETHING ELSE ;I desire that they also, whom(144K) You have given Me, be with Me where I am, so that they may see ;;THAT BEFORE I WAS A MAN I WAS A SPIRIT BEING BESIDE YOU,
IF HIS CHOSEN DISCIPLE (144K) WILL SEE HIM IN HEAVEN THE WAY HE HIS IN HIS HEAVENLY GLORY THIS MEANS THAT THEY ALSO ARE NO LONGER MAN OR FLESH ,UNDERSTAND THAT THEY ALL HAVE TO DIE IN THE FLESH NO MATTER WHAT .THIS IS TO ALLOW THE FULL GLORY THAT THEY CAME TO GAIN BY BEING FAITHFUL TILL DEAD
T,Your post is not clear.
Are you stating the glory Jesus had with God was a spirit body?
To answer you question the glory God has reserved for Jesus was not a body of any type. It was his death and what followed.
Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 13 2013,15:09) Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 13 2013,13:19) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 12 2013,06:06) Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 12 2013,10:14) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 12 2013,05:10) Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 12 2013,05:37) T, Quote k MT 13:39 and the enemy who sowed them is the devil, and the harvest is the end of the age; and the reapers are angels.
MT 13:41 “ The Son of Man will send forth His angels, and they will gather out of His kingdom all stumbling blocks, and those who commit lawlessness,
MT 13:49 “So it will be at the end of the age; the angels will come forth and take out the wicked from among the righteous,
MT 16:27 “For the Son of Man is going to come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and WILL THEN REPAY EVERY MAN ACCORDING TO HIS DEEDS.it does not say that men do go to heaven ,but it says that they stay on the earth and that the wicked will be destroyed or removed ,
Whether this passage supports your idea that humanity will dwell on the earth after the Judgement is an issue as I believe they will. The earth will at that time be part of the Kingdom of God of which Paul states the combination of flesh and blood will not inherit.
Quote MT 22:30 “For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven. this scripture says how men condition will be after the resurrection ,
Humans will neither marry or be given in marriage just like angels currently do not.
Nothing you wrote actually makes the case that only spirits can enter the kingdom of heaven.
I know of only Jesus and man Paul spoke of entering heaven.
Kerwin.At the coming,there will be two things happening.
1.The saints will be resurrected in a spirit body.
2.The chosen jews of all generations will be brought back
in the flesh to be taught by the saints.
3.The saints will have inherited all things.
4. Not yet for the jews;they need to go through Christ first.
5. The 1000yrs will be paradise for the jews.
6. No wars,no pain,no sorrows;the lion will eat straw.
Isaiah 11. 65.
7.The gentiles outside will be taught by the jews.
8.Jews and gentiles will multiply.
9. The gentiles will be sifted: believers from non believers.
10. Second judgement.wakeup.
Wakeup,Flesh will be saved when Jesus comes as the Son of man.
Kerwin.The jews remnant/chosen will be brought back in the flesh, into paradise,
to be taught by the resurrected saints.(they/jews, must go through Christ).
The resurrected saints have inherited all things.The kingdom of heaven is theirs also.wakeup.
Wakeup,Paul stated that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God and the new earth will both be in the kingdom of God.
The new earth is for humanity and the new heaven for the angels.
Kerwin.1.God's kingdom will be on earth.
2.God himself also will be on earth(the new earth).
3.At the second coming certain things will happen.
A.The destruction of the cities of the nations.
(babylon the great).
B.The resurrection of the saints.
C. The bringing back to life the chosen jews in the flesh.
D. Paradise restored for them;the lion eat straw.(Is. 11. 65).
They live up to a hundred yrs then die.The saints will teach
them.
E. The jews will teach the gentiles out side.
F. At the end of the thousand yrs;satan will be let loose to
sift out the non believers.By gathering them to one place
To be destroyed,this is the battle of gog and magog.wakeup.
Wakeup,1 Corinthians 15:50
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
You are telling me Jewish flesh inherits the kingdom of God. I have no personal objection to that beyond the fact that the earth is humanity's and the heavens belong the angels. It is your own interpretation of 1 Corinthians 15:50 that disagrees with the teaching that “The chosen jews of all generations will be brought back in the flesh to be taught by the saints.”
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 12 2013,09:32) Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 11 2013,11:08) Terrica…….So who is one of you “LITTLE” god's, that you know of please enlighten us, and if you “truly believe he or it is a “real “god or GOD to you , then you must serve it and trust in it's power, because that is only what a God or god can be to anyone who believe in them.
Well, in the case of Hebrews 1:8, Jesus is the “little god”, Gene.
Do you serve your Lord Jesus? Yes.
Do you trust in his power to save? Yes.
Do you believe in your Lord Jesus? Yes.
So it seems Jesus fits all the criteria required to be a “real god” that you listed in your post, right?
Mike……….. So you decided to change the wording to a “little god” , or a lessor “God” so the word God changes it meaning as you see fit right!? , but your quoted text says a “BIG GOD”, seems you have a problem altering text, to fit you dogmas, but then again changing scripture to say what they emphatically say, has never been a problem for you, right?Now how do you change this text to meet you dogmas Mike.
1 Cor 8:4…. we know that there is no idol in the world and that there is “NO” GOD, but “ONE”.
Peace and love…………………………………..gene
Mike…….You ask,
Do you serve your Lord (Adoni) master or teacher yes, because the one and ONLY TRUE GOD is with him and IN him. But that in no way makes him the GOD, that is IN him.
Do I trust in HIS power, NO , I trust in the POWER of MY GOD who is with him.
Do I believe in The Lord (Adoni) teacher and master, yes because he is speaking the ONE and ONLY “TRUE” GOD'S words to me.
Jesus is not my BIG GOD or MY “little” god, we both have ONLY “ONE” “TRUE” GOD. We do not have “little god's ” not any of then, we leave that to the wolf's and the foxes.
Peace and love …………………………….gene
Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 13 2013,13:15) Mike, One that is not reborn in spirit will not inherit the kingdom of God. The only way to be reborn in spirit is by the power of acting through his Spirit.
It is like you missed a large part of message of the gospel.
Kerwin……..They strain out the gnat, but swallow a camel. Why because the truth is not “IN” them, or they could easily see the error of their teachings.Have you noticed how Mike avoids this scripture, like the plague , because it completely shatters his false teachings. It's direct and emphatic to the point, he can't find any way around it, so he starts all. His you haven't answered my question gibberish.
1Cor 8:4…….we know, (that is those who have the truth of God in them) ,that there is no idol in the world and, that there is “NO” God, but “ONE”.
Plus we know all the many other scriptures that say the same thing to. It's unfortunate the fox has followed the wolf, now they are both in the ditch. IMO
Peace and love to you and yours Kerwin…………………………gene
Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 14 2013,05:18) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 13 2013,15:09) Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 13 2013,13:19) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 12 2013,06:06) Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 12 2013,10:14) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 12 2013,05:10) Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 12 2013,05:37) T, Quote k MT 13:39 and the enemy who sowed them is the devil, and the harvest is the end of the age; and the reapers are angels.
MT 13:41 “ The Son of Man will send forth His angels, and they will gather out of His kingdom all stumbling blocks, and those who commit lawlessness,
MT 13:49 “So it will be at the end of the age; the angels will come forth and take out the wicked from among the righteous,
MT 16:27 “For the Son of Man is going to come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and WILL THEN REPAY EVERY MAN ACCORDING TO HIS DEEDS.it does not say that men do go to heaven ,but it says that they stay on the earth and that the wicked will be destroyed or removed ,
Whether this passage supports your idea that humanity will dwell on the earth after the Judgement is an issue as I believe they will. The earth will at that time be part of the Kingdom of God of which Paul states the combination of flesh and blood will not inherit.
Quote MT 22:30 “For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven. this scripture says how men condition will be after the resurrection ,
Humans will neither marry or be given in marriage just like angels currently do not.
Nothing you wrote actually makes the case that only spirits can enter the kingdom of heaven.
I know of only Jesus and man Paul spoke of entering heaven.
Kerwin.At the coming,there will be two things happening.
1.The saints will be resurrected in a spirit body.
2.The chosen jews of all generations will be brought back
in the flesh to be taught by the saints.
3.The saints will have inherited all things.
4. Not yet for the jews;they need to go through Christ first.
5. The 1000yrs will be paradise for the jews.
6. No wars,no pain,no sorrows;the lion will eat straw.
Isaiah 11. 65.
7.The gentiles outside will be taught by the jews.
8.Jews and gentiles will multiply.
9. The gentiles will be sifted: believers from non believers.
10. Second judgement.wakeup.
Wakeup,Flesh will be saved when Jesus comes as the Son of man.
Kerwin.The jews remnant/chosen will be brought back in the flesh, into paradise,
to be taught by the resurrected saints.(they/jews, must go through Christ).
The resurrected saints have inherited all things.The kingdom of heaven is theirs also.wakeup.
Wakeup,Paul stated that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God and the new earth will both be in the kingdom of God.
The new earth is for humanity and the new heaven for the angels.
Kerwin.1.God's kingdom will be on earth.
2.God himself also will be on earth(the new earth).
3.At the second coming certain things will happen.
A.The destruction of the cities of the nations.
(babylon the great).
B.The resurrection of the saints.
C. The bringing back to life the chosen jews in the flesh.
D. Paradise restored for them;the lion eat straw.(Is. 11. 65).
They live up to a hundred yrs then die.The saints will teach
them.
E. The jews will teach the gentiles out side.
F. At the end of the thousand yrs;satan will be let loose to
sift out the non believers.By gathering them to one place
To be destroyed,this is the battle of gog and magog.wakeup.
Wakeup,1 Corinthians 15:50
Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
You are telling me Jewish flesh inherits the kingdom of God. I have no personal objection to that beyond the fact that the earth is humanity's and the heavens belong the angels. It is your own interpretation of 1 Corinthians 15:50 that disagrees with the teaching that “The chosen jews of all generations will be brought back in the flesh to be taught by the saints.”
Kerwin.Romans 10:19 But I say, Did not Israel know? First Moses saith, ***I will provoke you to jealousy by them that are no
people***,
and by a foolish nation I will anger you.THEM THAT ARE NO PEOPLE AT THAT TIME: THESE ARE THE CHRISTIANS,TODAY.(MAINLY GENTILES).
Romans 11:11 I say then, Have they(jews) stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, *for*
***to provoke them to jealousy***.THROUGH THEIR FALL,(JEWS); SALVATION HAS COME TO THE GENTILES. TO PROVOKE THEM(JEWS) TO JEALOUSY.
HOW WOULD GOD PROVOKE THEM TO JEALOUSY?Revelation 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but
***they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall
reign with him a thousand years***.THE RESURRECTED GENTILES,WILL BE PRIESTS
OF GOD AND OF CHRIST,AND REIGN WITH HIM FOR A THOUSAND YEARS. THEY WILL BE THE TEACHERS OF THE JEWS, THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGH BACK IN THE FLESH.
THEM JEWS THAT HAVE ENTERED INTO THE REST.ISIAH 11. 65.
(jews suppose to teach the gentiles,but God *will* turn it
the other way around).1.THE CHOSEN JEWS WILL BE AT REST FOR A THOUSAND YEARS WITH NO PAIN AND SUFFERING,NO WARS.
THIS WOULD BE **PARADISE** FOR THEM.2.THE RESURRECTED SAINTS WOULD HAVE INHERITED
HEAVEN AND EARTH. THEY COULD ENTER THE HEAVENLY
KINGDOM,AND THEIR EARTHLY KINGDOM WITH CHRIST,
AS KING OF KINGS.3. THE THIEF AT CHRISTS RIGHT HAND WAS PROMISED
TO BE WITH CHRIST IN ***PARADISE***.
HE WILL BE UNITED WITH HIS FELLOWS AND LEARN
ABOUT C
HRIST.
THAT WAS THE WHOLE EXPLANATION IN DETAIL.wakeup.
Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 14 2013,00:02) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 12 2013,05:19) Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 12 2013,00:23) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 10 2013,23:42)
gno gene ,just only one almighty true God and all the other gods are lesser gods but are very real
T,There are no lesser gods mentioned in Scripture but there is those called gods mentioned.
Ksame thing ;there is no other God like Jehovah but there are many gods in heaven and on earth
T,To be called a god is not necessary being a god.
Kbeing a god mean being powerful ;and we know that no one is more powerful than Jehovah God the creator right
yesQuote (kerwin @ Dec. 14 2013,00:09) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 12 2013,05:49) Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 12 2013,00:37) T, Quote k MT 13:39 and the enemy who sowed them is the devil, and the harvest is the end of the age; and the reapers are angels.
MT 13:41 “ The Son of Man will send forth His angels, and they will gather out of His kingdom all stumbling blocks, and those who commit lawlessness,
MT 13:49 “So it will be at the end of the age; the angels will come forth and take out the wicked from among the righteous,
MT 16:27 “For the Son of Man is going to come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and WILL THEN REPAY EVERY MAN ACCORDING TO HIS DEEDS.it does not say that men do go to heaven ,but it says that they stay on the earth and that the wicked will be destroyed or removed ,
Whether this passage supports your idea that humanity will dwell on the earth after the Judgement is an issue as I believe they will. The earth will at that time be part of the Kingdom of God of which Paul states the combination of flesh and blood will not inherit.
Quote MT 22:30 “For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven. this scripture says how men condition will be after the resurrection ,
Humans will neither marry or be given in marriage just like angels currently do not.
Nothing you wrote actually makes the case that only spirits can enter the kingdom of heaven.
I know of only Jesus and man Paul spoke of entering heaven.
KJN 17:24 “Father, I desire that they also, whom You have given Me, be with Me where I am, so that they may see My glory which You have given Me, for You loved Me before the foundation of the world.
PAY ATTENTION TO ;so that they may see My glory;
SO CHRIST AD ANOTHER GLORY THAN THE ONE HE HAD ON EARTH RIGHT ;Jn 17:5 And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began;
NOW WHAT GLORY DID THE SON HAD BEFORE HE CAME TO EARTH ; AND THAT HE RECEIVED BACK WHEN HE WENT TO HIS FATHER
CERTAINLY NOT THE FLESH ;BUT HE SAID SOMETHING ELSE ;I desire that they also, whom(144K) You have given Me, be with Me where I am, so that they may see ;;THAT BEFORE I WAS A MAN I WAS A SPIRIT BEING BESIDE YOU,
IF HIS CHOSEN DISCIPLE (144K) WILL SEE HIM IN HEAVEN THE WAY HE HIS IN HIS HEAVENLY GLORY THIS MEANS THAT THEY ALSO ARE NO LONGER MAN OR FLESH ,UNDERSTAND THAT THEY ALL HAVE TO DIE IN THE FLESH NO MATTER WHAT .THIS IS TO ALLOW THE FULL GLORY THAT THEY CAME TO GAIN BY BEING FAITHFUL TILL DEAD
T,Your post is not clear.
Are you stating the glory Jesus had with God was a spirit body?
To answer you question the glory God has reserved for Jesus was not a body of any type. It was his death and what followed.
Kwe know that God is a being and so as a body of a sort ,and that it shine to his glory ,and so it is for Christ ,he is the image of the living God his father ,but it seems that the scriptures says that no men as see his glory as well and so Christ make the request to his father for his disciples (144k) to be with him in heaven so they could see him the way he really his ,they also will recieve a glorified body of a sort
Quote So according to you it is honest to say that a woman both came in a dress and was transformed into a dress. Weird analogy.
The women came in person and and was a person.
Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 12 2013,20:15) Mike, One that is not reborn in spirit will not inherit the kingdom of God. The only way to be reborn in spirit is by the power of acting through his Spirit.
It is like you missed a large part of message of the gospel.
Where is this “reborn IN spirit” coming from?Jesus said, “spirit gives birth to spirit“, right?
So, when we are reborn of spirit (not “in spirit”), what will we be?
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