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Hi KW,
If it does not change the message of scripture?
But you said you had to adjust the words to make them understandable did you not?So we end up with your words
T,
FIRST ;Ps 49:7 No man can redeem the life of another
or give to God a ransom for him—I know you want to interpret this so as it is evidence Jesus cannot be a man but Scripture teaches us that it was the human Jesus Christ who died for us. So the human being Jesus was both the one who redeemed the lives of many by giving a ransom to God for them.
1 Timothy 2:5-6New English Translation (NET Bible)
5 For there is one God and one intermediary between God and humanity, Christ Jesus, himself human, 6 who gave himself as a ransom for all, revealing God’s purpose at his appointed time.
Nick,
Hi KW,
If it does not change the message of scripture?
But you said you had to adjust the words to make them understandable did you not?So we end up with your words
It does not change the message of Scripture because the message of Scripture is already put forth with other verses. Your interpretation changes the message by adding what is not written.
Nick……certain words are symbolic written, rather you believe that or not it is true. Our bibles are completely full of symbolic language as any true scholar knows. If you take every thing written in scriptures as literial, you haven’t even begin to understand scriptures yet Nick.
Also you speak of me, but it was you that said Eze 37:6 was a vision and implied it couldn’t be taken literally. Which maligns God the Father own words. As I have said before people in glass houses should not throw stones. IMO
peace and love to you and yours………………gene
Gene,
Nick does not take everything literal as he does not believe we need to literally eat Jesus’ flesh and literally drink his blood.
K
I know you want to interpret this so as it is evidence Jesus cannot be a man but Scripture teaches us that it was the human Jesus Christ who died for us. So the human being Jesus was both the one who redeemed the lives of many by giving a ransom to God for them.
1Ti 2:5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,
1Ti 2:6 who gave himself as a ransom for all men—the testimony given in its proper time.i do not interpreting the scriptures YOU DO ,FOR YOU TAKE ONE SCRIPTURE FOR CHRIST AND THEN THINK THAT THAT SCRIPTURE MEANS WHAT YOU ARE THINKING BUT DOES IT ? WHAT ABOUT ALL THE SCRIPTURES THAT TALKS ABOUT JESUS THE SON OF GOD ? DID YOU EVER SEE ALL THOSE SCRIPTURES SIDE BY SIDE ,? YOU SHOULD , SO YOU WOULD NOT HAVE TO INTERPRET THOSE SCRIPTURES IN THE WRONG WAY ;
YOU ARE THINKING THAT ONE SCRIPTURE IS ANNULLING THE OTHER RIGHT ? LIKE pS 49;7 IS VOID FOR YOUR VERSES IN 1TH 2;5,6 YOU SEEM NOT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT CHRIST IS ALL ABOUT ,AND DO NOT UNDERSTAND OR DO NOT WANT TO UNDERSTAND THE WAY OF GOD ,ONLY THE WAY OF KERWIN AND HIS MIND ,
TO ME KNOWING ALL THE SCRIPTURES OF CHRIST THE SON OF GOD FIND THOSE SCRIPTURES IN PERFECT ORDER AND LINE UP WITH THEM ALL,
Nick
Hi,
The Spirit interprets.
But who has the Spirit?only those that live by the truth ,will receive the truth from the spirit of truth ; you cannot benefit from sour waters as you can benefit from clear fresh spring waters is it ?
T,
1Ti 2:5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,
1Ti 2:6 who gave himself as a ransom for all men—the testimony given in its proper time.i do not interpreting the scriptures YOU DO ,FOR YOU TAKE ONE SCRIPTURE FOR CHRIST AND THEN THINK THAT THAT SCRIPTURE MEANS WHAT YOU ARE THINKING BUT DOES IT ? WHAT ABOUT ALL THE SCRIPTURES THAT TALKS ABOUT JESUS THE SON OF GOD ? DID YOU EVER SEE ALL THOSE SCRIPTURES SIDE BY SIDE ,? YOU SHOULD , SO YOU WOULD NOT HAVE TO INTERPRET THOSE SCRIPTURES IN THE WRONG WAY ;
YOU ARE THINKING THAT ONE SCRIPTURE IS ANNULLING THE OTHER RIGHT ? LIKE pS 49;7 IS VOID FOR YOUR VERSES IN 1TH 2;5,6 YOU SEEM NOT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT CHRIST IS ALL ABOUT ,AND DO NOT UNDERSTAND OR DO NOT WANT TO UNDERSTAND THE WAY OF GOD ,ONLY THE WAY OF KERWIN AND HIS MIND ,
TO ME KNOWING ALL THE SCRIPTURES OF CHRIST THE SON OF GOD FIND THOSE SCRIPTURES IN PERFECT ORDER AND LINE UP WITH THEM ALL,
When Scripture states that it was the human being Jesus Christ that sacrificed his life for us then I believe he was the human being who gave his life for us by dying on the cross. The fact he is also the Son of God does not change the first fact in any way or Scripture would tell us it did. Your use of Psalms 49:7 to attempt to prove Jesus is not a human is clearly mistaken because Scripture tells us he was a human when he gave his life for us.
There are two possibilities you have for interpreting Psalms 49:7 without conflicting with Scriptures claim that the human being Jesus gave his life for other humans. The first is that he is an exception to the rule and the second is that he is not part of the sinners the rule was written about. Either one works but your current claim does not.
k
When Scripture states that it was the human being Jesus Christ that sacrificed his life for us then I believe he was the human being who gave his life for us by dying on the cross. The fact he is also the Son of God does not change the first fact in any way or Scripture would tell us it did. Your use of Psalms 49:7 to attempt to prove Jesus is not a human is clearly mistaken because Scripture tells us he was a human when he gave his life for us.
jESUS “BECAME A HUMAN MAN ” NOW THE SCRIPTURES CAN NOT BE BROKEN OR CAN A EXCEPTION MAKE A LIAR OUT OF GOD ;THE FACT THAT YOU WILL NOT AND CAN NOT ACCEPT THAT HE JESUS CAME DOWN FROM THE FATHER THIS MEAN HEAVEN ;TO GIVE UP HIS LIFE FOR US , THIS IS THE PRICE FOR THE SIN OF MEN ; THE FACT THAT HE CAME AS A MAN DOES NOT BY NO MEAN DIMINISH JESUS OF BEING A MAN ,
ALL SCRIPTURES WILL NOT BE BROKEN IN THIS VIEW ,
THERE’S ONLY ONE POSSIBILITY THAT MATCHES WITH THE ENTIRE SCRIPTURES AND PROPHECY , AND THAT IS THE JESUS CAME DOWN FROM HEAVEN LIKE HE SAID HE DID ,IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO BELIEVE HIM THAT’S YOUR PROBLEM ,YOU WILL BE JUDGE ON YOUR BELIEVE OF NOT BELIEVING IN THE SON OF GOD ,
Jn 3:12 I have spoken to you of earthly things and you do not believe; how then will you believe if I speak of heavenly things?
Jn 3:13 No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven—the Son of Man.
Jn 3:14 Just as Moses lifted up the snake in the desert, so the Son of Man must be lifted up,
Jn 3:15 that everyone who believes in him may have eternal life.LOOK VERSE 15 ; YOU DO NOT BELIEVE IN JESUS THE SON OF GOD ;LOOK WHAT YOU ARE LOSING ;”ETERNAL LIFE”
NICK
Hi T,
So you save and purify yourself and then you receive the Spirit?
This is a false gospelTHINK A LITTLE DEEPER ;IT IS THE MAN OF TRUTH THAT COMES TO GOD ,THIS DOES NOT MEAN HE IS PURE OR WITHOUT SINS ;IT MEAN THAT HE SEES TRUTH WERE IT LAYS ;EXAMPLE THE TWO THIEVES NEXT TO JESUS ONE WAS CORRUPTED DID NOT SEE TRUTH AT ALL ,BUT LOOK AT THE OTHER ONE AND TO WHAT HE SAYS EVEN THOUGH HE IS A THIEF HE COULD SEE RIGHTEOUSNESS ,FOR HIS HEART WAS IN TRUTH COULD BE VERY WELL CIRCUMSTANCES OF LIFE THAT BROUGHT HIM TO BECOME A THIEF ,
BUT FROM THERE ON ANYONE LIKE HIM SHOULD START TO IMPROVE TO BECOME PURE AND HOLY FOR GOD IS HOLY
DO YOU THINK THIS IS ANOTHER GOSPEL THAN THE CHRIST PREACHED ? THINK AGAIN
T,
jESUS “BECAME A HUMAN MAN ” NOW THE SCRIPTURES CAN NOT BE BROKEN OR CAN A EXCEPTION MAKE A LIAR OUT OF GOD ;THE FACT THAT YOU WILL NOT AND CAN NOT ACCEPT THAT HE JESUS CAME DOWN FROM THE FATHER THIS MEAN HEAVEN ;TO GIVE UP HIS LIFE FOR US , THIS IS THE PRICE FOR THE SIN OF MEN ; THE FACT THAT HE CAME AS A MAN DOES NOT BY NO MEAN DIMINISH JESUS OF BEING A MAN ,
At the moment this is a side issue as the what I desire to make clear to you is that the human being Jesus Christ rescued his brothers by paying God adequate ransom price.
k
you can try to turn the scriptures to mean what you personally want them to say ,and for this you have to give a explanation to the scriptures that talks about the man that came from heaven to make him just a regular man ,and you think i don’t know were you are going ? yes i know you will put a lie upon a lie ,until nothing will make sense ,we went there once ,what i do not understand is your determination to make the scriptures an amount of lies
any way it seems you are not looking for God’s truth but yours ,you will never make it ,
Nick
why are you saying that ,are you a believer in free bees? and so get everything done for you ? that would better than Adam aded in Eden
Nick……Jesus meant by that statement, the person who will not let go of the way he lives, will lose his life. We must all let go of the way we live, and live the way God wants us to. When a person does that, he in effect is dying to himself, and living to God. The key there, is the words “his life” meaning the way he lives. IMO
peace and love to you and yours…………………gene
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