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  • #322514
    Ed J
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    Quote (Marlin1 @ Nov. 29 2012,12:02)

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    ohn 14:23 parallels Rom 8:8-9?  These two verses parallel each other…

    “So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. 9 But ye are not in the flesh,
    but in the Spirit, if so be that (1)the Spirit of God(HolySpirit) dwell in you.
    Now if any man have not the (2)Spirit of Christ(Spirit of Jesus), he is none of his.”  (Rom 8:8-9)

    “Pentecost”(117) was the fulfillment of both of these verses.  (Link)

    “Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father
    will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.”  (John 14:23)

    (1)the Spirit of God(HolySpirit)
    (2)Spirit of Christ(Spirit of Jesus)

    God bless
    Ed J

    Brother Ed,

    It seems that we disagree here,  you have just broken the 1st commandment and made two Gods.

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin


    Hi Marlin,

    “The Spirit of Christ” is not God.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #322515
    Marlin1
    Participant

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    their is no scriptures that support your view only in your mind by adding words and meaning to the written words ,

    but that is what you believe religion of men ,

    it seems you have been a graduate by them (men)

    ————–
    Pierre

    Brother Pierre,

    That is according to you and you are entitled to your opinion.  

    II TIM 4:3 † For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
    4† And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and {they} shall be turned unto fables.

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin

    #322516
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Bro Marlin,

    If you say Jesus was God, who was he praying to?         <– please do answer

    What you're saying doesn't add up with Scriptures.
    Because you cannot give a reasonable answer to my question.
    It will certainly sound like circular gibberish, but please do give us an answer.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #322526
    Marlin1
    Participant

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    Hi Marlin,

    “The Spirit of Christ” is not God.

    God bless
    Ed J

    Brother Ed,

    That is the popular opinion.  Even unto my dying breath, I will tell the truth.
    It is the revealed TRUTH for this last age.

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    Just like ninety percent of the Christians in the WORLD believe in the TRINITY of three persons in the Godhead. Yet it is FALSE and comes from the Catholic Church.

    Just like water baptism has been changed from the NAME to titles.
    With sprinkling and baby baptism.

    Just like being taught the first SIN was eating an APPLE.

    The list goes on and on.

    And we wonder why the POWER of GOD is NOT with the so called CHURCH.  It has left the Word, Who is God.

    Trying to cut God into little pieces that our minds can understand.  Some 3, some 2, some big God and little god, some Jesus only.  All are WRONG.
    ****************************************************************************

    meaning of Jesus (Jehovah becomes our Saviour)

    Scripture says that there is only ONE Saviour and that is GOD, right.

    ISA 43:11 † I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.
    ISA 45:21 † Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me. 22 † Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else.

    That same God over in the NT.

    ACTS 13:23 † Of this man's seed hath God according to his promise raised unto Israel a Saviour, Jesus:
    I TIM 4:10 † For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.
    Here Paul saying the living God is our Saviour, right?

    II TIM 1:10 † But is now made manifest by the appearing of our Saviour Jesus Christ, who hath abolished death, and hath brought life and immortality to light through the gospel:
    Now Paul says that Jesus Christ is our Saviour.
    It is not another Saviour or God, it is the SAME God all the TIME.

    JEHOVAH of the OLD Testament is JESUS of the NEW.

    It's a paradox, God became flesh and dwelt among US.

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin

    #322527
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Marlin1 @ Nov. 29 2012,13:22)
    Brother Ed,

    Just like water baptism has been changed from the NAME to titles.
    With sprinkling and baby baptism.

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin


    Hi Marlin,

    Water baptism is not Christianity, but baptism
    in God's HolySpirit, which is fire baptism.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #322528
    Marlin1
    Participant

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    If you say Jesus was God, who was he praying to?         <– please do answer

    What you're saying doesn't add up with Scriptures.
    Because you cannot give a reasonable answer to my question.
    It will certainly sound like circular gibberish, but please do give us an answer.

    God bless
    Ed J

    Brother Ed,

    At no time have I said that Jesus created Himself.  So why would you think the flesh man Jesus would not pray to God the Father.

    That is a Jesus only teaching, that Jesus, the man, was always God and created Himself.
    I have been called Jesus only, but I am not.

    God created the man Jesus for Himself to dwell in. The Word became Flesh, He was Emanuel (GOD with US)

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin

    #322530
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Marlin1 @ Nov. 29 2012,13:22)
    Brother Ed,

    It's a paradox, God became flesh and dwelt among US.

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin


    Hi Marlin,

    That is precisely what happened, when Jesus was baptized by John
    the baptist at Jordan; it was at that point that God became flesh.    
    John 1:14 and 1Tm.3:16 is where this is recorded in Scripture.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #322531
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Marlin1 @ Nov. 29 2012,13:46)

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    If you say Jesus was God, who was he praying to?        <– please do answer

    What you're saying doesn't add up with Scriptures.
    Because you cannot give a reasonable answer to my question.
    It will certainly sound like circular gibberish, but please do give us an answer.

    God bless
    Ed J

    Brother Ed,

    At no time have I said that Jesus created Himself.  So why would you think the flesh man Jesus would not pray to God the Father.

    That is a Jesus only teaching, that Jesus, the man, was always God and created Himself.
    I have been called Jesus only, but I am not.

    God created the man Jesus for Himself to dwell in. The Word became Flesh, He was Emanuel (GOD with US)

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin


    Can you please highlight your answer for me?

    #322532
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 29 2012,13:43)

    Quote (Marlin1 @ Nov. 29 2012,13:22)
    Brother Ed,

    Just like water baptism has been changed from the NAME to titles.
    With sprinkling and baby baptism.

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin


    Hi Marlin,

    Water baptism is not Christianity, but baptism
    in God's HolySpirit, which is fire baptism.

    God bless
    Ed J


    Hi Marlin,

    “Our God is a consuming fire.”  (Heb 12:29)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #322533
    Marlin1
    Participant

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    Water baptism is not Christianity, but baptism
    in God's HolySpirit, which is fire baptism.

    God bless
    Ed J

    According to you my brother.  

    The New Testament gave us three physical Divine orders.
    What were they?

    The Gospel is made up of the Word, not just those parts we like.

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin

    #322534
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 29 2012,13:49)

    Quote (Marlin1 @ Nov. 29 2012,13:22)
    Brother Ed,

    It's a paradox, God became flesh and dwelt among US.

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin


    Hi Marlin,

    That is precisely what happened, when Jesus was baptized by John
    the baptist at Jordan; it was at that point that God became flesh.    
    John 1:14 and 1Tm.3:16 is where this is recorded in Scripture.

    God bless
    Ed J


    Hi Marlin, know your bible.

    At that point – Jesus became “The Christ”.

    Your brother
    in Christ, Jesus.
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #322536
    Marlin1
    Participant

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    Brother Ed,

    At no time have I said that Jesus created Himself.  So why would you think the flesh man Jesus would not pray to God the Father.

    That is a Jesus only teaching, that Jesus, the man, was always God and created Himself.
    I have been called Jesus only, but I am not.

    God created the man Jesus for Himself to dwell in. The Word became Flesh, He was Emanuel (GOD with US)

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin

    Can you please highlight your answer for me?

    #322537
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Marlin1 @ Nov. 29 2012,13:55)

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    Water baptism is not Christianity, but baptism
    in God's HolySpirit, which is fire baptism.

    God bless
    Ed J

    According to you my brother.  

    The New Testament gave us three physical Divine orders.
    What were they?

    The Gospel is made up of the Word, not just those parts we like.

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin


    You mean according to YOU.  –  so until you tell me I will be waiting for you answer.

    #322539
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Marlin1 @ Nov. 29 2012,13:57)

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    Brother Ed,

    why would you think the flesh man Jesus would not pray to God the Father.

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin

    Can you please highlight your answer for me?


    Hi Bro Marlin,

    If you say Jesus was God, who was he praying to?         <– please do answer

    So is YOUR answer then:  He prayed to “God”, who is his Father ?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #322542
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Marlin1 @ Nov. 29 2012,07:14)

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    their is no scriptures that support your view only in your mind by adding words and meaning to the written words ,

    but that is what you believe religion of men ,

    it seems you have been a graduate by them (men)

    ————–
    Pierre

    Brother Pierre,

    That is according to you and you are entitled to your opinion.  

    II TIM 4:3 † For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
    4† And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and {they} shall be turned unto fables.

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin


    m1

    you are the adventist religion man
    not me ,you are following mens believe not scriptures ,

    I went to the adventist web site ,not all is found in scriptures ,

    so telling to others what should be said to yourself is not a good sign ,

    #322564
    Marlin1
    Participant

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    That is precisely what happened, when Jesus was baptized by John
    the baptist at Jordan; it was at that point that God became flesh.    
    John 1:14 and 1Tm.3:16 is where this is recorded in Scripture.

    God bless
    Ed J

    Hi Marlin, know your bible.

    At that point – Jesus became “The Christ” and his spirit became one with the Father.

    Your brother
    in Christ, Jesus.
    Ed J

    My Brother, Jesus was Born the CHRIST.
    LUKE 2:11 † For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.
    Just like 1 Tim 3:16 says,  When did God become Flesh, at birth.  Not at the Jordan.
    You can not pick and choose scripture.

    They must all line up from A – Z

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin

    #322569
    Marlin1
    Participant

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    you are the adventist religion man

    Brother Pierre,

    Where did you ever get a notion like that.  Didn't I say the Trinity doctrine of three person in one God is FALSE.   Yet the adventist's believe in that DOCTRINE.

    I believe in the REVEALED WORD of GOD and that ONLY.

    Let the WORD of GOD be TRUE and every man a liar.

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin

    #322571
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Marlin1 @ Nov. 29 2012,10:25)

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    you are the adventist religion man

    Brother Pierre,

    Where did you ever get a notion like that.  Didn't I say the Trinity doctrine of three person in one God is FALSE.   Yet the adventist's believe in that DOCTRINE.

    I believe in the REVEALED WORD of GOD and that ONLY.

    Let the WORD of GOD be TRUE and every man a liar.

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin


    M1

    I just see you believe Christ his God the father the almighty right ???

    #322572
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Marlin1 @ Nov. 29 2012,15:03)

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    That is precisely what happened, when Jesus was baptized by John
    the baptist at Jordan; it was at that point that God became flesh.    
    John 1:14 and 1Tm.3:16 is where this is recorded in Scripture.

    At that point – Jesus became “The Christ” and his spirit became one with the Father.

    Your brother
    in Christ, Jesus.
    Ed J

    My Brother, Jesus was Born the CHRIST.
    LUKE 2:11 † For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.

    You can not pick and choose scripture.
    They must all line up from A – Z

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin


    Hi Marlin: Yes of course, all Scripture must indeed line up A-Z!

    But you are clearly overlooking Romans 4:17 which explains LUKE 2:11.

    “calleth those things which be not (yet) as though they were.” (Romans 4:17)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #322573
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Marlin1 @ Nov. 29 2012,15:03)
    Just like 1 Tim 3:16 says,  When did God become Flesh, at birth.  Not at the Jordan.

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin


    That is not what 1Tim 3:16 says.

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