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    terraricca
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    M1

    And for your knowledge Act 2 tells you that the GIFT. His the HOLY SPIRIT and so all others are other gifts as it pleases God

    #322348
    Marlin1
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    And for your knowledge Act 2 tells you that the GIFT. His the HOLY SPIRIT  and so all others are other gifts as it pleases God

    Brother Pierre,

    (Gifts of the SPIRIT) and the Holy Spirit are the same Spirit.
    I COR 12:4 † Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit.

    I COR 12:11 † But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit,….

    I COR 12:13 † For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body,….

    The Holy Spirit, GOD'S OWN Spirit is the worker of every good thing SPIRITUAL.

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin

    #322363
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Marlin1 @ Nov. 28 2012,06:57)

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    And for your knowledge Act 2 tells you that the GIFT. His the HOLY SPIRIT  and so all others are other gifts as it pleases God

    Brother Pierre,

    (Gifts of the SPIRIT) and the Holy Spirit are the same Spirit.
    I COR 12:4 † Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit.

    I COR 12:11 † But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit,….

    I COR 12:13 † For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body,….

    The Holy Spirit, GOD'S OWN Spirit is the worker of every good thing SPIRITUAL.

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin


    m1

    you did not understand what i try to communicate to you,

    if the gift his the holy spirit ,then the other gifts are in Gods hand to give on and off as he see fit ,

    #322365
    terraricca
    Participant

    m1

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    You believe FALSE DOCTRINE and can not produce one scripture, yet you call me a liar.
    You posted lots of scripture, but not one said what you believe.
    1) That the gifts are not for now.
    2) That the gifts of the spirit are not of the Holy Ghost

    show me my quotation were I say that ,if not you are a liar,

    #322368
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Marlin1 @ Nov. 28 2012,06:57)

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    And for your knowledge Act 2 tells you that the GIFT. His the HOLY SPIRIT  and so all others are other gifts as it pleases God

    Brother Pierre,

    (Gifts of the SPIRIT) and the Holy Spirit are the same Spirit.
    I COR 12:4 † Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit.

    I COR 12:11 † But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit,….

    I COR 12:13 † For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body,….

    The Holy Spirit, GOD'S OWN Spirit is the worker of every good thing SPIRITUAL.

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin


    m1

    keep reading in 1Cor and you will see what Paul says don't stopped at those verses you show me ,

    do you think that I never read the scriptures ??? religion like to quote just one line or verse that expressed thier personal view but wen reading more we can see that it is not in lign with what the writer is saying or as written

    #322374
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Marlin1 @ Nov. 26 2012,17:10)
    The Spirit of God is the Holy Spirit.

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin


    Hi Marlin,

    It's nice when we can agree! And the spirit
    of Jesus is “Spirit of Christ”.  (See Rom. 8:9)

    Your brother
    in Christ, Jesus.
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #322494
    Marlin1
    Participant

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    show me my quotation were I say that ,if not you are a liar,

    Brother Pierre,

    You should know what you believe.
    You said this, “yes you are probably right ;but Christ had the miracles, what we do not have, right?”

    You said it, do you now believe different?

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin

    #322495
    Marlin1
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    Brother Pierre,

    (Gifts of the SPIRIT) and the Holy Spirit are the same Spirit.
    I COR 12:4 † Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit.

    I COR 12:11 † But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit,….

    I COR 12:13 † For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body,….

    The Holy Spirit, GOD'S OWN Spirit is the worker of every good thing SPIRITUAL.

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin

    m1

    keep reading in 1Cor and you will see what Paul says don't stopped at those verses you show me ,

    do you think that I never read the scriptures ??? religion like to quote just one line or verse that expressed thier personal view but wen reading more we can see that it is not in lign with what the writer is saying or as written

    ————–
    Pierre

    Brother, I have no idea of what you are trying to say, here.
    I said the gifts of the Spirit come from the Holy Spirit, are you saying it says something different.

    If you believe 1 Cor 12 speaks of the gifts of the Spirit, coming from other the the same Spirit, then please do tell.

    bro. Marlin

    #322496
    Marlin1
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    The Spirit of God is the Holy Spirit.

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin

    Hi Marlin,

    It's nice when we can agree! And the spirit
    of Jesus is “Spirit of Christ”.  (See Rom. 8:9)

    Your brother
    in Christ, Jesus.
    Ed J

    Brother Ed,

    I can agree with you here :D

    And the Spirit of Christ is the Spirit of God. (also Rom 8:9)

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin

    #322497
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Marlin1 @ Nov. 29 2012,05:47)

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    show me my quotation were I say that ,if not you are a liar,

    Brother Pierre,

    You should know what you believe.
    You said this, “yes you are probably right ;but Christ had the miracles, what we do not have, right?”

    You said it, do you now believe different?

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin


    m1

    the question was ask to you from me ??? read it again

    #322500
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Marlin1 @ Nov. 29 2012,05:53)

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    Brother Pierre,

    (Gifts of the SPIRIT) and the Holy Spirit are the same Spirit.
    I COR 12:4 † Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit.

    I COR 12:11 † But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit,….

    I COR 12:13 † For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body,….

    The Holy Spirit, GOD'S OWN Spirit is the worker of every good thing SPIRITUAL.

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin

    m1

    keep reading in 1Cor and you will see what Paul says don't stopped at those verses you show me ,

    do you think that I never read the scriptures ??? religion like to quote just one line or verse that expressed thier personal view but wen reading more we can see that it is not in lign with what the writer is saying or as written

    ————–
    Pierre

    Brother, I have no idea of what you are trying to say, here.
    I said the gifts of the Spirit come from the Holy Spirit, are you saying it says something different.

    If you believe 1 Cor 12 speaks of the gifts of the Spirit, coming from other the the same Spirit, then please do tell.

    bro. Marlin


    m1

    tell me what the spirit his ??? you say it is the holy spirit but wat his the holy spirit ???

    who is God his he a being to you ???

    or just smooke ???

    God has a will ,and because he his a spirit so his will his OF the spirit ,God has a soul but just like our soul that is also of the spirit ,

    so if the spirit of God his himself with his own will ,then the hloy spirit can only be the active part that make things to be within his spirit will ,and so are not the same spirit but is ruled under and for the same spirit of God what means that all his done in and for Gods will to be accomplished,

    do you understand this ???

    this is why the holy spirit is always at work and doing something while the other his controlling the first

    now their is also the spirit of Christ this does not mean the soul and will of Christ because we all know that Christ does all things to please his father but it is the entire prophecies and reason behind the coming and dead of the son of God ,this his the spirit of Christ ,
    1CO 6:17 But the one who joins himself to the Lord is one spirit with Him.
    1CO 12:9 to another faith by the same Spirit, and to another gifts of healing by the one Spirit,
    1CO 12:13 For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body, whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free, and we were all made to drink of one Spirit.
    EPH 2:18 for through Him we both have our access in one Spirit to the Father.
    EPH 4:4 There is one body and one Spirit, just as also you were called in one hope of your calling;
    Phil 1:27 Only conduct yourselves in a manner worthy of the gospel of Christ, so that whether I come and see you or remain absent, I will hear of you that you are standing firm in one spirit, with one mind striving together for the faith of the gospel;

    and that spirit is in harmony with the will and spirit of God for the simple reason that God gived him the holy spirit without measuring it ,this was the very reason why Christ could do those miracles because it was his fathers will ,not Christ will ,understand that ???

    so if God want you to be gifted by miracles it will be his decission not yours got it ???

    but first it has to be in prophecy that you would receive it to performing Gods will ,every time God gives of his holy spirit he need some thing in return,

    #322501
    Marlin1
    Participant

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    the question was ask to you from me ??? read it again

    ————–
    Pierre

    You said this, “yes you are probably right ;but Christ had the miracles what we do not have right”

    Brother Pierre,
    The above was your Quote, if that is not what you meant then could you please correct it.

    For it is the same thing,  one of the gifts of the Spirit is Miracles.
    I COR 12:10 † “To another the working of miracles;…..”

    Miracles have been in His true church since He came, because as Paul said, it is one of the gifts of the Spirit.

    bro. Marlin

    #322504
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Marlin1 @ Nov. 29 2012,11:00)

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 28 2012,13:21)

    Quote (Marlin1 @ Nov. 26 2012,17:10)

    The Spirit of God is the Holy Spirit.


    It's nice when we can agree! And the spirit
    of Jesus is “Spirit of Christ”.  (See Rom. 8:9)


    Brother Ed,

    I can agree with you here :D

    And the Spirit of Christ is the Spirit of God. (also Rom 8:9)

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin


    Hi Marlin,

    John 14:23 parallels Rom 8:8-9?  These two verses parallel each other…

    “So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. 9 But ye are not in the flesh,
    but in the Spirit, if so be that (1)the Spirit of God(HolySpirit) dwell in you.
    Now if any man have not the (2)Spirit of Christ(Spirit of Jesus), he is none of his.”  (Rom 8:8-9)

    “Pentecost”(117) was the fulfillment of both of these verses.  (Link)

    “Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father
    will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.”  (John 14:23)

    (1)the Spirit of God(HolySpirit)
    (2)Spirit of Christ(Spirit of Jesus)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #322506
    Marlin1
    Participant

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    tell me what the spirit his ??? you say it is the holy spirit but wat his the holy spirit ???

    who is God his he a being  to you ???

    or just smooke ???

    God has a will ,and because he his a spirit so his will his OF the spirit ,God has a soul but just like our soul that is also of the spirit ,

    so if the spirit of God his himself with his own will ,then the hloy spirit can only be the active part that make things to be within his spirit will ,and so are not the same spirit but is ruled under and for the same spirit of God what means that all his done in and for Gods will to be accomplished,

    do you understand this ???

    this is why the holy spirit is always at work and doing something while the other his controlling the first

    now their is also the spirit of Christ this does not mean the soul and will of Christ because we all know that Christ does all things to please his father but it is the entire prophecies and reason behind the coming and dead of the son of God ,this his the spirit of Christ ,
    1CO 6:17 But the one who joins himself to the Lord is one spirit with Him.
    1CO 12:9 to another faith by the same Spirit, and to another gifts of healing by the one Spirit,
    1CO 12:13 For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body, whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free, and we were all made to drink of one Spirit.
    EPH 2:18 for through Him we both have our access in one Spirit to the Father.
    EPH 4:4 There is one body and one Spirit, just as also you were called in one hope of your calling;
    Phil 1:27 Only conduct yourselves in a manner worthy of the gospel of Christ, so that whether I come and see you or remain absent, I will hear of you that you are standing firm in one spirit, with one mind striving together for the faith of the gospel;

    and that spirit is in harmony with the will and spirit of God for the simple reason that God gived him the holy spirit without measuring it ,this was the very reason why Christ could do those miracles because it was his fathers will ,not Christ will ,understand that ???

    so if God want you to be gifted by miracles it will be his decission not yours got it ???

    but first it has to be in prophecy that you would receive it to performing Gods will ,every time God gives of his holy spirit he need some thing in return,

    ————–
    Pierre

    Brother Pierre,

    We differ here, I do not believe in three persons, (gods) at all.  Just one Spirit, not three.  

    The Holy Spirit is not ANOTHER Spirit, it is God's OWN Spirit.
    The Spirit in Christ is NONE OTHER then God's OWN Spirit.

    Before anything was created the LOGOS, (GOD'S THOUGHTS PROJECTED) went out of God and the WORD was formed, which was God’s “Theophany”. which was called the Son of God.  All things were created by Him and for Him

    Then that WORD became flesh and dwelt among us.

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin

    #322508
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Marlin1 @ Nov. 24 2012,05:00)

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    2) You say, “miracles are the worse part”  , you call what God does an unholy thing. Shame on you.
    Signs and wonders shall always follow the true church.

    this is absolutly not what i said ,show me if i have said this ???

    Brother Pierre,

    It may not have been what you meant, but it was what you just said,
    “miracles are the worse part because it give wonders”

    Go and reread your own writing.

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin


    m1

    it just tells your mind and spirit that his in you ,not of God because it is wicket

    #322509
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Marlin1 @ Nov. 29 2012,06:47)

    Quote
    tell me what the spirit his ??? you say it is the holy spirit but wat his the holy spirit ???

    who is God his he a being  to you ???

    or just smooke ???

    God has a will ,and because he his a spirit so his will his OF the spirit ,God has a soul but just like our soul that is also of the spirit ,

    so if the spirit of God his himself with his own will ,then the hloy spirit can only be the active part that make things to be within his spirit will ,and so are not the same spirit but is ruled under and for the same spirit of God what means that all his done in and for Gods will to be accomplished,

    do you understand this ???

    this is why the holy spirit is always at work and doing something while the other his controlling the first

    now their is also the spirit of Christ this does not mean the soul and will of Christ because we all know that Christ does all things to please his father but it is the entire prophecies and reason behind the coming and dead of the son of God ,this his the spirit of Christ ,
    1CO 6:17 But the one who joins himself to the Lord is one spirit with Him.
    1CO 12:9 to another faith by the same Spirit, and to another gifts of healing by the one Spirit,
    1CO 12:13 For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body, whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free, and we were all made to drink of one Spirit.
    EPH 2:18 for through Him we both have our access in one Spirit to the Father.
    EPH 4:4 There is one body and one Spirit, just as also you were called in one hope of your calling;
    Phil 1:27 Only conduct yourselves in a manner worthy of the gospel of Christ, so that whether I come and see you or remain absent, I will hear of you that you are standing firm in one spirit, with one mind striving together for the faith of the gospel;

    and that spirit is in harmony with the will and spirit of God for the simple reason that God gived him the holy spirit without measuring it ,this was the very reason why Christ could do those miracles because it was his fathers will ,not Christ will ,understand that ???

    so if God want you to be gifted by miracles it will be his decission not yours got it ???

    but first it has to be in prophecy that you would receive it to performing Gods will ,every time God gives of his holy spirit he need some thing in return,

    ————–
    Pierre

    Brother Pierre,

    We differ here, I do not believe in three persons, (gods) at all.  Just one Spirit, not three.  

    The Holy Spirit is not ANOTHER Spirit, it is God's OWN Spirit.
    The Spirit in Christ is NONE OTHER then God's OWN Spirit.

    Before anything was created the LOGOS, (GOD'S THOUGHTS PROJECTED) went out of God and the WORD was formed, which was God’s “Theophany”. which was called the Son of God.  All things were created by Him and for Him

    Then that WORD became flesh and dwelt among us.

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin


    m1

    their is no scriptures that support your view only in your mind by adding words and meaning to the written words ,

    but that is what you believe religion of men ,

    it seems you have been a graduate by them (men)

    #322510
    Marlin1
    Participant

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    ohn 14:23 parallels Rom 8:8-9?  These two verses parallel each other…

    “So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. 9 But ye are not in the flesh,
    but in the Spirit, if so be that (1)the Spirit of God(HolySpirit) dwell in you.
    Now if any man have not the (2)Spirit of Christ(Spirit of Jesus), he is none of his.”  (Rom 8:8-9)

    “Pentecost”(117) was the fulfillment of both of these verses.  (Link)

    “Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father
    will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.”  (John 14:23)

    (1)the Spirit of God(HolySpirit)
    (2)Spirit of Christ(Spirit of Jesus)

    God bless
    Ed J

    Brother Ed,

    It seems that we disagree here,  you have just broken the 1st commandment and made two Gods.

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin

    #322511
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Marlin1 @ Nov. 29 2012,11:47)
    Brother Pierre,

    The Holy Spirit is not ANOTHER Spirit, it is God's OWN Spirit.
    The Spirit in Christ is NONE OTHER then God's OWN Spirit.

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin


    Hi Marlin,

    The part in red is NOT accurate.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #322512
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Marlin1 @ Nov. 29 2012,11:47)
    Brother Pierre,

    Before anything was created the LOGOS, (GOD'S THOUGHTS PROJECTED) went out of God and the WORD was formed,
    which was God’s “Theophany”. which was called the Son of God.  All things were created by Him and for Him

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin


    Hi Marlin,

    This is not accurate either.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #322513
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Marlin1 @ Nov. 29 2012,12:02)
    you have just broken the 1st commandment and made two Gods.


    why do bear false witness against me?

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